Trump reveals himself and no one notices

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  1. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    Amid the grandstanding and posturing at the CNBC debate, one answer to a question seemed to go completely unnoticed.

    Donald Trump has put several of his deals into bankrupcy over the years. This is no secret. The fact that he has never personally filed is actually irrelevant. Real estate developers routinely insulate themselves from risk by setting up dummy corporations to take the risks and the fall in their place.

    Something similar to this came up in 2012 with regard to the bust out shop, Bain Capital, that Mitt Romney was closely associated with.

    The questions had to do with the people left behind.

    So, CNBC asked what Trump would call a "gotcha" question, but one which goes right to the point of what he believes in.

    The question:

    The response:

    Notice that Trump evaded the question. He was being asked about all the subcontractors, engineers, and employees that got left holding the bag when he walked away from his bad deals.

    He never adressed them at all.

    He also made it clear that he doesn't care about them at all. Mitt Romney never got away with this "let them eat cake" sort of response.

    http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/29/cnbc...he-republican-presidential-debate-part-2.html
     
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    If nobody noticed, why do we have a thread about it?
     
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    I noticed it and it was a glaring red flag. With his history, his response to something like the debt ceiling would be to go into default or find another way to stiff creditors.

    I believe he cares for this country, but he needs to dig a helluva lot deeper for better responses to bankruptcy questions.
     
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    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    LOL I love his arrogant none answer answers, he is definitely trying to sound smart to the hill billy crowd...unfortunately that crowd seems to be the driving voting block in Republican nominations for some odd reason....
     
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    Because somebody did.
     
  6. TomFitz

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    Precisely!

    The full faith and credit of the United States is not something you can weasel out of in bankrupcy court. The fact that Trump regards this as yet another strategy for getting his, no matter what he leaves in his wake, is a reflection of his character.

    The strange thing, is that this arrogant indifference to consequences has been on open display from the beginning.

    Of course, the talk radio right is now completely sold on bashing the moderators. They claim they want substantive debate, and the two candidates with the least substance to their campaign are leading the noise campaign.

    Of course, neither one wants any kind of substantive debate at all. But pretending they do is apparantly enough for a fawning and uncritical audience.
     
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    really this results are from a investor$ IBD/TIPP poll [​IMG]
     
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    Because Tom is doing his part to attempt to discredit Trump and make us think he's onto something in order to shake our resolve that career politicians are the way to go in this election. Might work for the low information vote who is swayed by every utterance from the media's lips, but not for someone with IQ over 50. Maybe Tom is trying to become a moderator for the next republican debates. :roflol:

    I look at electing a president like courting a woman I might want to marry. As long as her assets far outweigh her liabilities, she's in the running for the position. Trump's assets FAR outweigh the baggage Hillary is hauling around on those thick ankles, and the smart people know she's nothing more than a white, female Obama. Trump's OK in my book, and I'll take him over anything the left has to offer.

    Didn't Obama screw up the nation's credit rating??? Yet the left loves him.
     
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    I like this post. However, America is +18 T in debt and one of the things the politically astute looks at is how a person is at handling debt. It just so happens Trump has a record of bankruptcy. That said, I would begrudgingly vote for him before Hillary and Sanders. He just wouldn't be among my top 3 choices.
     
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    It's a high risk business these guys are in, you want to change the bankruptcy laws? Has he ever stood beside the caskets of dead Americans, looked into the eyes of their grieving families and then lied his ass off to them and the American People?

    What is your plan to pay back the $19T the Federal government owes as a result of it's chronic overspending? You don't have one, thank you. Suddenly you are dripping tears over subs in high risk gambling ventures in Atlantic City, but you care nothing for the families of the slain Americans who were lied to by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and you have no plans to pay back any of the trillions America owes. No, just borrow more and hang the debt around the necks of our children and grandchildren, because you are such a moralistic high-roller. What a peach you are.

    What a piece of work the left is. Maybe what we need is a president that knows how to successfully navigate bankruptcy, then WE take the hit and we pass a debt free nation to our grandchildren and children. But no, you are against that, that would require personal sacrifice by the folks that ran up the debt, and you are too busy weeping and wailing over Atlantic City subs in the gambling business.
     
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    Obviously taking a lesson from the Hillary playbook. Why can see through Trump, but you can't seem to be able to see through Hillary?
     
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    Donald Trump certainly has his own skeletons in the closet.
     
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    You're trying to make his point, I see!
     
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    hillbillys are to poor to be investor$
     
  15. TomFitz

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    First of all, Trump wouldn't hesitate to lie, He's made a career of it.

    I'm not running for President so, asking me what my plan is to retire the national debt is irrelevant. What's yours?

    The idea that someone who has successfully weaseled out of his obligations is just the man to lead us to paying of the national debt is ridiculous, and dangerous.

    Are you suggesting taht the US ought to default? Because that's what putting the US in "bankrupcy" would be. And it would cause a global depression, something that almost happened when Ted Cruz tried it a couple of years ago (which is why he blustered about the media to avoid asking a question about it).

    BTW, where were you when the GOP was doing all this chronic overspending and setting the stage for financial collapse. Back then, you never heard right wingers complain about the deficit. You all took your lead from Dick Cheney: "Deficts don't matter".

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    You still made his point. Don't insult the intelligence of the rest of us by trying to pretend that IBD only polls investors. It's a right wing trash blog pretending to be a financial journal.
     
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    Everything about Trump is ridiculous and dangerous, especially his fanboys.
    It's embarrassing to see how eager his supporters are to excuse his glaring deficiencies just because they like the way he insults people.
     
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    Like all good finger-pointing democrats (remember when you point your finger, there are three pointing back at YOU!), you fail to recognize that Trump dealt with this bankruptcy issue in the Fox News monitored debate. To paraphrase his words, he essentially reminded the moderator that he was merely taking advantage of the bankruptcy laws as structured by lawmakers many moons ago, probably as a gift to their donors who were in financial trouble...and he's 100% correct and within the framework of the law.

    As for IBD being a "right wing trash blog pretending to be a financial journal," that sounds like smack from someone with little to no business or investment acumen. IOW, a poor guy jealous of the guy who has his financial house in order. I see this kind of jealousy all the time in forums and blogs. I just laugh, like I'm laughing now.:roflol: I'm sure you get your investment advice from SNL or Comedy Central. That's where liberals go for learn what the lefties want you to regurgitate back when the lies are exposed. So transparent....
     
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    EVERYONE has those skeletons...except for the liberals who tell us not to believe our lying eyes & ears.:roflol::roflol: They are pure as the driven snow..NOT!!
     
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    Uhhh...pssst! Take a peek in the mirror, Hillary fanboy. You seem to be the proverbial pot calling the kettle black. Get the log from your eye before going after the speck in others.
     
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    What I find especially amazing is the fact that a lot of these guys are Bush dead enders. Every time the Iraq war comes up, they reach for thier throwaway quotes from Democrats and recycle long discredited Bush era claims..

    Yet, when Donald Trump loudly and repeatedly (and correctly) has said that the Middle East "is a mess" primarily because of the war Bush started, they all sit silent, and give the Donald a pass.

    I'm used to a fair amount of abject hypocricy from the right, but this is a special, even exceptional case.

    I have mentioned it once or twice here, and not one right winger has dared offer even the weakest rationalization for the obvious double standard. They don't even try.
     
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    The question, was what did Trump have to say to the people he left holding the bag.

    And the answer is f you!!!!! ( in two separate debates now, as you point out).

    IBD is a right wing trash blog. That's not exactly a secret.
     
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    LOL! If dems can not notice how incompetent and dishonest Hillary is then any candidate can do whatever they want. The premise of this thread is silly.

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    He blamed it on a YouTube video.....
     
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    But you give a pass to the people that legitimized the ability to do what he did, and in fact support them to run the country. Not too bright IMO. Kind of hypocritical as well, dontcha think? Keep in mind that there only two kinds of people in the world...the winners & the losers. Only losers cannot grasp that or accept that, because they are not winners. The winners take the risks and don't always win. But when they risk again and do win, the losers continue to cry and badmouth them, rather than to learn what their methods are for success. Who's crying now?

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    Kind of like the left does with the Hildabeast??? Hmmmm...
     
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    Despite all evidence to the contrary, the vast majority of right-wingers remain convinced Obama is a foreign born Muslim. That he is determined to take their guns, and economic conditions are now worse than in the months following the economic meltdown of 2008. (Which right-wingers place the blame on Obama for causing. Months before he was elected.)

    Just read their posts on these message boards, everything is Obama's, Bill Clinton's, or FDR's fault.

    You description of The Donald is spot on. But, conservatives and neoconservatives want a "straight talker" like Trump for President. He tells it like it is, but only in the alternate reality of the right-wingers.

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    And what about Hillary ? Did you check her out ? What did you revel about the witch ? Who is owed for all the Clinton foundation donations by ALL those foreigners ? :confusion:
     

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