Anyone remember Christian Terrorist Anders Behring Breivik

That's because you only dug to the point where it satisfied your view on Christian Terrorism, dig a little deeper instead of just stopping at Wikipedia and you'll find a wealth of information that does indeed mention his ties to Christianity.

 

Ehm ... what? Are you serious? Please read the BS of his manifest more intensive please and then try again to tell that his motives had nothing to do with his Christian believes! He sees himself as a modern crusade!

 

And waste more time on this failed thread? I don't think so.

 

From A B own mouth he says he does not believe in or worship Christ. So how do you conclude he was Christian? That is a problem in reading comprehension.

On thread deletion , well I have seen many a good thread vanish for less. The rule is number 11 ?? We will let a mod handle it then they wake up.

 

Funny how you keep coming back to this thread if it's a waste of time, but you know you can't, it's like Cookies to a Fat kid and you can't resist it, so move along if you can

 

Dude - It's about percentages!
Of course there are wackos in every walk of life. Who's denying that?

 

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2011/07/27/sorry-oreilly-anders-breivik-is-a-christian/183298

Well, when you can prove beyond a doubt with the limited resources you get your imformation from that Anders Behring Breivik is not a question, I'm going to continue with my resources that say he is. There's no lying here, just a difference in opinion from different news outlets that support our views on this subject

 

Fair enough...but religious fanaticism has a far longer history, or do you deny that?

 

Samuel 15:3-

"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"

 

Compare them? Er, one was merely a preacher, while the other one was both a preacher and statesman.

It's like comparing apples to oranges. It's more apt to compare the Prophet to Moses.

 

So basically this loon is a christian to about exactly the extent you are an ardvaark but you're going to claim he is one anyway...

 

Anders Behring Breivik, religion: Odinism

Odinism

Odinism is a term used by some practitioners of Heathenry, a modern Pagan new religious movement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odinism

You need to apologize to Christians my friend, the guy was a Pagan.

 

No! there will be no apology from me Mr Peabody, because as much information you dig up from YOUR sources that say Anders behring breivik was not a Christian, I can find double the amount that say's he is exactly that, a Christian. He has stated himself that he looks at himself as a modern day Knights Templar who were soldiers that waged the Crusades for Christianity. So you are the one that needs to apologize to me

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2015/christian-crusader

 

Since 9/11. Well yeah, because when a fundamentalist terror cell which also happens to be a radical religious movement actually succeeds in bringing down three buildings and causing the deaths of more than two thousand innocent Americans, I guess that site you linked to won't count it, despite that it happened in recent history and in fact was the precedent for the war on terror, which is still going on to this day. If your sources are going to exclude the most deadly acts of terror committed by the group being discussed just in order to make them look less bad and start counting the death toll AFTER the worst terror attack on the United States to this day, it's pretty clear that your source is intellectually dishonest at best and deceptive and manipulative at worst.

 

All crime that engulfs a terrified victim, is not terrorism, and everything that terrifies is not a terrorist act. Geez guys, stop with the elastic definitions and agenda driven hyperbole.

 

Hardly, his actions speak for themselves. Real Christians don't gun down 70 innocent children. Just because he may have called himself one, doesn't mean he was one, sorry.

If he had no relationship with God......he wasn't a Christian. But, don't let facts get in the way of your narrative.

 

Well REAL Muslims don't fly airliners into buildings and saw off peoples heads. I guess what you fail to understand Mr Peabody is that ALL religions are going to have their radicals that are capable of Terrorism, which is what this thread trying to point out. When those bombings happened in Oklahoma city and Oslo, the first thing that came to mind with a lot of Americans was that it could only possibly have been brown skinned Muslims that could have done it, but then to their surprise it turned out to be White men and when any of them have any connection to Christianity, Christians do everything possible to distance themselves away from it.

 

What you say is true. However, how many radical Muslim terrorists are there vs radical Christian terrorists?

Of course that's the first thought because of the sheer number of terrorists in their midst. To deny that is a willful disconnect with reality.

 

Well you can believe whatever information media you choose, but from his manifesto he looks at himself as a modern day Christian crusader

BREIVIK'S CHRISTIAN CREDENTIALS

How Breivik consciously chose to Convert to Christianity

My parents, being rather secular wanted to give me the choice in regards to religion. At the age of 15 I chose to be baptised and confirmed in the Norwegian State Church. I consider myself to be 100% Christian. However, I strongly object to the current suicidal path of the Catholic Church but especially the Protestant Church. I support a Church that believes in self defence and who are willing to fight for its principles and values, at least resist the efforts put forth to exterminate it gradually. The Catholic and Protestant Church are both cheering their own annihilation considering the fact that they embrace the ongoing inter-faith dialogue and the appeasement of Islam. The current Church elite has shown its suicidal face, as vividly demonstrated last year by the archbishop of Canterbury's speech contemplating the legitimacy of Shariah in parts of Britain. (EDI: Page 1403)
Breivik's Criticisms of The Church and Plans for the future of Christianity in Europe

I trust that the future leadership of a European cultural conservative hegemony in Europe will ensure that the current Church leadership are replaced and the systems somewhat reformed. WE MUST HAVE A CHURCH LEADERSHIP WHO SUPPORTS A FUTURE CRUSADE WITH THE INTENTION OF LIBERATING THE BALKANS, ANATOLIA AND CREATING THREE CHRISTIAN STATES IN THE MIDDLE EAST. Efforts should be made to facilitate the de-construction of the Protestant Church whose members should convert back to Catholicism. The Protestant Church had an important role once but its original goals have been accomplished and have contributed to reform the Catholic Church as well. Europe should have a united Church lead by a just and non-suicidal Pope who is willing to fight for the security of his subjects, especially in regards to Islamic atrocities. I FULLY SUPPORT THAT THE CHURCH GAINS MORE OR LESS MONOPOLY ON RELIGION IN EUROPE (GOVERNMENT POLICIES, SCHOOL CURRICULUM ETC AT LEAST) in addition to granting the Church several concessions which have been taken from them the last decades. (EDI: Page 1403)

Breivik communes with God for Spiritual Insight into his anti-Moslem Crusade

I prayed for the first time in a very long time today. I explained to God that unless he wanted the Marxist-Islamic alliance and the certain Islamic takeover of Europe to completely annihilate European Christendom within the next hundred years he must ensure that the warriors fighting for the preservation of European Christendom prevail. He must ensure that I succeed with my mission and as such; contribute to inspire thousands of other revolutionary conservatives/nationalists; anti- Communists and anti-Islamists throughout the European world. (EDI; page 1459)
Our primary objective is to develop PCCTS, Knights Templar into becoming the foremost conservative revolutionary movement in Western Europe the next few decades. This in relation to developing a new type of European nationalism referred to as Crusader Nationalism. (EDI; page 1414)

Breivik sees himself as saviour of European Christendom

I will always know that I am perhaps the biggest champion of cultural conservatism, Europe has ever witnessed since 1950. I am one of many destroyers of cultural Marxism and as such; a hero of Europe, a savior of our people and of European Christendom. (EDI; page 1435.)
As it is through the example of Christ, the "Prince of Peace," that Christianity interprets its scriptures, so it is through the example of the warlord and despot Muhammad that Muslims understand the Quran. (EDI; Page 100)

(speaking of the right wing movement he is part of Breivik writes
We fight for the free indigenous peoples of Europe, for those not yet born and for the memory and wishes of our forefathers, our martyrs. We fight to preserve our culture, our identity, our country and for Christendom. (EDI; page 1412)

Breivik explains how he obtains strength from God to kill and become a martyr

I will probably arrange that just before or after I attend my final martyrs mass in Frogner Church. It will contribute to ease my mind as I imagine I will get tense and very nervous. It is easier to face death if you know you are biologically, mentally and spiritually at ease. (EDI; page 1424)
But of Course Breivik did not die a Christian martyr's death. He gave himself up and was captured by the police. This has given the Norwegian government a real headache. Realising the toxic nature of Breivik's philosophies it is vital that the Socialisticas do not give him an open trial which will simply provide him with a platform to justify or rationalise his motives to the public.
On no account must the public be allowed to realise that Breivik was not simply another Oswald. Thus in their wisdom the Xists amongst the ruling class have decided to try him in camera and the media are already lining up their stock-stereotypes to fall in with it and dupe the Western world.

All this will simply reinforce the radicals and create another Utoya somewhere else in Europe. Breivik has opened a fault-line within democracy in the West and few realise just what the implications are. Brushing it under the carpet is NOT the way to deal with this situation otherwise those poor kids who gave their lives for democracy will have been wasted.

Maronite Catholic Priest Blesses Tanks Prior to Battle in the Lebanese War

He's a Christian Jim, But Not As We Know It...

Now many observers will say that Breivik's views do not represent Christians in general and I agree that is the case.
They may also say that he is a megalomaniac who is intepreting the history of Christianity to suit himself but with that I cannot agree. What he says is not morally right but it is also not factually wrong. The history of the church is replete with militarist organisations, secret military societies and warrior sects. There are HUNDREDS more of them besides the well known ones like the Knights Templars, Hospitalers of St John, Soldiers of St Columbo, etc . Many of these continue today in muted form and new ones have regularly appeared in modern times, from the Salvation Army to the Jesus Army and Soldiers of Christ etc. The absolutist claims of religion has always provided a justification for people to strive to commandeer society using verbal or physical force. Why else would commissioned padres bless the machinery of war before armies go into battle?

 

Ya know...because only Muslims so stuff like this

 

Correct and I can only agree with this!

Of course we all hear, read and see in our huge media world about the Islamic terrorists in world here and there ... even mostly only reported if outside ME done. Correct is that in moment majority of terror acts have the background of Jihadists who interpret Koran and Islam as they want ... and this interpretation of a religious book and so on is the basic problem and valid for all religions!

 

This is known as the no true Scotsman fallacy.

 

Hardly, his actions speak for themselves. Real Christians don't gun down 70 innocent children. Just because he may have called himself one, doesn't mean he was one, sorry.
If he had no relationship with God......he wasn't a Christian. But, don't let facts get in the way of your narrative.

The same can be said about terrorists who happen to be Muslims.

 

The terrorist are the true Muslims thats the difference

 

It has already been said that it is a perversion of their faith. I prefer to call Islam a cult.