Everyone should be afraid of any govt surveillance. If the govt did its job then it would not be a problem, but the govt is run by political ideologues who will use the surveillance for political purposes. If the govt so blatantly uses the IRS to attack its political opponents, then it will use surveillance and law enforcement for political objectives as well.
Took me some 15 minutes to get back online through connection problems after posting this thread. I never have connection problems on this hardline. Hmmm??? Did I poke a bear in the eye?
Why would I fear someone watching my internet or listening to my phone calls if I have nothing to fear or hide?
Doesn't really matter now. The technology to monitor things exists. If not the government, others can and will be doing it, and probably already are. When you are on the internet, no matter where you are or what the laws are, when your information leaves your fingertips, it's no longer under your control. Having the expectation of privacy because of the law or morality or ethics or anything does not translate into you being safe. If you're concerned about the government spying on you, I would assume that means you're concerned about your information being recorded and possibly used no matter who is doing it. If that's the case, I would suggest that you stay off the internet altogether. Probably should stay off the phone and wireless networks too. When it comes to the government spying, I do not consider it to be a wonderful thing. I do consider it to be entirely unsurprising, since if I was in charge of security, I wouldn't leave a massive instant communications network unmonitored right under my nose. That part makes perfect sense to me, as I'm sure it would to any type of strategy and security people. If there's an attack, the government will be blamed, possibly sued, not to mention the loss of life and business. There won't be people jumping in to say "It's not the government's fault guys, our freedom and liberties are more important". So, in this, I am reluctantly okay with it since the government and I have largely the same interests. Knowing what's going on so it can be responded to. I'm not personally worried about my life being in danger from an attack of some kind, I'm much more worried about the economic and social implications. So that, coupled with the fact that my information is already out of my hands the minute I send it, is why I'm not mad about the government surveillance. I'm not thrilled about it, and I realize it opens the door to possible misuse of that information, but I am under no illusions that my information would be totally safe even without government surveillance.
I heard tell that the UFO's captured several U.N officials and used a device on them to make them Illuminati drones and are taking over Russia to start nuclear war too.
Yeah, just keep your head in the sand, and remember that the government loves you, and people in the government are not people, they are love dispensers. And remember to keep mocking anybody who doesn't share your blind faith. Oh, and here's some CRAZY CONSPIRACY THEORISTS from national review: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/410860/tinker-tailor-stalker-spy-kevin-d-williamson http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q42013/feds-admit-abusing-nsa-spy-authority-for-stalking/ So, you were saying?...
Oh, really? So that's why you equated my recognition of the established cases of government stalking with UFO illuminati bull(*)(*)(*)(*)? Because "reality"? The reality is that you tried to conflate conspiracy theory with the known abuses that you now admit to be true. BTW, the middle ground between being invaded and being secure is found when we obey the 4th Amendment.
Its obvious. First, mistakes are made all the time, some bureaucrat through a typo links a terrorists financial activities to your identity, a computer program (which is written by imperfect people) looks at your profile and computes your risk score and because of some odd combination of your harmless activities you get on the watch and no-fly list. Even if the system has only a 1% false positive rate that's 3 Million people falsely targeted. Second, we have already seen politicians will abuse the system. FDR used the IRS against his political opponents (blackmail), so did Nixon (that was the second charge in his impeachment proceedings). Clinton abused the FBI background check process to get info on his political opponents. obama used the IRS, EPA, OSHA. In Wisconsin the Democrats used information from conservative membership and donor lists to target completely innocent average Americans who just happened to donate to Gov. Scott Walkers campaign (the John Doe Investigations, just his year a judge finally stopped then and declared them unconstitutional and a gross abuse of power).
I have nothing to fear except fear itself....... I am NOT a terrorist! I do NOT call for terrorist acts nor do I condone them! I do not fear a government reading my emails, what I type on here and/or what I say/text on my phone. It's the same fear that many have with their local LEO's! The fear the police mostly because they themselves are doing something illegal, be it drugs/theft.......etc! If the government wants to "tap" into my life, they will find that I am the best sleeping pill they ever took. And if you disagree with me, what do YOU have to hide? I have no fears as I have conquered fear itself.
Over 100 billion emails are sent every day. Who do you think sifts through all the ones that might actually contain enough keywords to prompt the computer programs to put it in front of someone's eyes?
I see, so you are one of the sheep who will trade liberty for a false sense of security. The govt cannot protect you from terrorists. They might catch some (so they claim, how do we know? We just have their word, and thy have lied from the beginning about surveillance and its effectiveness) but they obviously don't catch them all. And they certainly cannot protect you from criminals.
would they make it a felony with a mandatory 10 year sentence for any gov official that abused that data if not, that means it will be abused and they know it .
