Wait! The homeless in Los Angeles are multiplying? How can that be? LA is run by a bunch of extreme left-wingers who know better than anybody else how to solve the homeless problem. Their liberal ideas creates jobs and makes LA a better place to live for all its citizens with an abundance of opportunities to work for a living. </sarcasm>
It is nice that the LA Council will allow the homeless to share some public buildings as temporary shelters.
so those who visit the public buildings to do business there are now jeopardizing there safety because of this, so they should be authorized to carry concealed weapons for protection then, just to be fair..
I do find it funny how laws are so subtle and different depending who you are... for instance... walmarts have always allowed semis and RV's to park overnight in their lots and people can asleep aboard them... and many local ordinances they've been involved with making sure this was possible... however if you are just a homeless person, or someone traveling around the country, its illegal for you to sleep in your car in their parking lot... they like to cite sanitary and health concerns, but I've never seen a semi that has a bathroom and wash station in order to make them sanitary... so its always interesting to see how people are treated different depending on their life situation... not all laws apply to all people equally...
truckers living in sleepers like i do at times but the difference is we don't beg or hassle the general public. we use public or restaurants restrooms, not the walls of alley ways.
well not all homeless or those traveling act that way either... they can have a law against begging, but I just thought it was a funny and subtle difference between your life status and what laws apply or do not apply to you... now in the case of walmart they are well within their rights to ask someone parked and sleeping to leave, totally their right to do so... I just find it amazing they, as well as society, change the rules depending who you are... either sleeping in a parking lot inside a vehicle is normal, or its not... but like I said, just thought it was an ironic subtle difference... I mean isn't a poor college kid traveling cross country on break, worthy of conducting themselves just as well as you, but they are not permitted to park and sleep overnight because they don't have a semi or RV... and the reason why, because they want to keep the homeless out... I don't blame them, but like I said, its a funny subtle difference in society how we treat people based on life status... not actions committed by them...
People who stay over in RV's are there on a temporary basis...and behave differently then a person living out of their car. The person living out of their car will live there permanently if allowed. A person who purchased an RV is not buying it to live in a Walmart parking lot. Its a stayover thing. Homeless people have a tendency to trash the area....RV owners do not. Reality hurts sometimes.
LA, lmao Brought to you by the same moonbats that support bringing more homeless refugees from Syria!
could have fooled me... thanks to the oil boom in north dakota, walmart has banned RV's from using their parking lot, because they ARE living there since housing is so expensive its cheaper to just buy an RV from out of state and park there... brutal in the winters for some of those guys who don't have good winterizing... but will make it work for the $40-$60 they are making an hour... in fact semis are banned too, unless they confirm they are scheduled to make a delivery to that walmart... now I'll concede, I used a honeypot example to blow up your statement... but clearly, there are examples... just like my college kid traveling cross country example... back in the day I probably would have totally done this more if I knew I wouldn't get hassled... it was way cheaper than hoping kids at whatever university was in town would let me bum a couch someplace for beer money... still far cheaper than a hotel but man, some crazy stories I'd prefer to have skipped heh... P.S. there are plenty of homeless people who own RV's... a friend of mine did that for almost 8 years before it broke down and he couldn't afford the repairs... he sold it and flew to hawaii and I'm sure still lives on the beach someplace... he was just that kind of guy... - - - Updated - - - you just touched on something interesting... how vocal have they been about bringing in syrian refugees, if they can't even take care of their own homeless people? I wonder how many of their homeless are legal vs illegal citizens... that would be interesting to note as well... as we taking care of ours, or more of theirs...
If RV's are being banned then its because they are having a problem and thus have changed their policies. Which proves my point that once they see a problem they change. It is not because of "status". We stayed over last year in a Kansas Walmart, in our trailer, while visiting our folks. We weren't banned and had permission. We stayed one night. That may change if problems occur.
well the policy changed because there were literally hundreds of rigs looking for a place to park and sleep... its become a huge problem up there since you can't find a hotel to stay in, they're almost all rented out by workers living in them... no other city in america has had more hotel rooms being built currently than they do out there, I've never seen a city where several dozens hotels were in the middle of being built for hundreds of rooms each... in the middle of nowhere... lol... but basically they are now treating the semi and rv drivers the same way they treat the homeless, like homeless... because there are too many "hotelless" drivers trying to use their property now and its become a problem... but just because someone was homeless or traveling through in a car, doesn't mean they are any different than a semi driver passing through... but they were singled out because of their status of not being a semi or rv driver... despite doing the exact same thing... I will concede if someone stays more than a couple nights, its an issue... but thats already their policy... nobody gets to stay more than a couple nights without expressed written permission from the store manager hanging on their driver side window... but why can't homeless folks just have one night in their car, or any other traveler, as long as like you said, they promise not to pee in their alley... like I said, different rules for different folks... despite no different action being committed...
Why should Walmart take a risk if they have a current problem? The homeless, rv owners, and semi's don't have entitlement to parking on someone else's property. Walmart does something nice...and look what happens...they have problems. Why pick on walmart? What about private homes...what about YOUR HOME. Advertise they can stay in your driveway. Tell me how it feels to have potential problems on your propery..
uhhh did you not read my other postings where I clearly said walmart has the right to refuse this to anyone for any reason... and can pick and choose whoever they see fit... I'm just making a solid point, clearly in society not all rules apply to everyone... we clearly discriminate against others, while allowing some to do the exact same thing... not picking on anyone, just making my point, demonstrating it in practice in society, this way people can't dispute it occurs... I'm sorry this upsets you so much... here is a video to provide you with quality walmart entertainment... [video=youtube;D9SMCF4imLA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9SMCF4imLA[/video]
LA and So. Cali's homeless problems stems from the cost of living in that area......... Look up price of buying/renting a home in LA area. The only one's who won't be shocked by the sticker price will be NYC (and other big city) residents.
Well lets see homeless are humans the bodies need to sleep, release waste and be clean as far as possible for basic needs besides eating and they find these hard being homeless so perhaps giving them a home of some kind that's civilized a room if a tenement hotel - oh yes most governments closed those down over the years removing affordable housing for the poor if singles for what to replace it? Seriously fleabag hotels and the like maybe weren't ideal but filled a need.
Should all people be treated equally regardless of behavior? I guess your posts seem contradictory. You seem to understand why some policies stand, but then seemingly accuse walmart of "discriminating", as if it is a bad thing. We all discriminate---every day. You might allow your relatives to park their RV on your driveway, but would discriminate when it came to strangers.
I never said people should be treated equally regardless of behavior... I said they should be treated equally until their behavior dictates otherwise... why is a semi driver automatically more responsible than someone simply traveling across the country and spending one night in the parking lot sleeping rather than paying for a hotel? you seem to suggest they are very different people with your responses? how are they any different than someone who owns an RV and is doing the same? why do you assume anyone else is incapable of acting like a normal human being with respect and decency for being able to sleep in their car in their lot? you see the huge difference between us... you assume anyone who isn't an rv or semi driver is below you and will cause trouble... yet there have been plenty of cases where rv and semi drivers have caused problems themselves, so they are not immune to these actions either... I'm simply saying, there is no reason someone else can be afforded the same right to sleep in a vehicle parked in a lot overnight, if one class of people is allowed to... if its right for one type of person, it should be right for another type of person... see how that works... if someone acts inappropriately, I have no problem with a private business saying, leave now, you're not welcome... and I have no problem with a business saying we don't want anyone parking in our lots overnight... and to further screw up your attempts to paint me negatively, I actually have no problem with walmart picking and choosing and openly discriminating against different people... I'm okay with them doing that, I never said otherwise... I'm simply making the very clear and direct point, not all laws apply to all people, and we routinely and openly discriminate against others based upon their life status... are you unable to comprehend this, and how its different from your claims I want the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s of the world the right to cause problems? do you get it? do I need to say it 10 more different ways of the same point? do you get it now... I'm making the point we clearly treat others different, not based on their actions, but their life status... get it? if we treated them different based on their actions, I would have NO point to make... but thats not how these laws treat people different, they treat them different based on being homeless or not homeless... or being the owner of a car versus a semi... we treat people different without judging them by their actions, simply because of residential status or automobile type... not because of how they acted or what they did or anything else... just the type of vehicle they have... I'm not saying walmart can't pick and choose or discriminate against all or none or whoever... I'm saying we clearly ARE picking and choosing winners and losers not based on actions, but life status... and I think its wrong to judge people on life status, rather than their actions... get it? I've said it 20 different ways now... do you comprehend now?
