Something Brewing

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  1. Fallen

    Fallen Well-Known Member

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    Today a bill will be sent up to the French parliament that will stop the anti russian sanction.

    Earl this week, there was a similar rhetoric in Italy.

    I believe that the downing of Russian jet was orchestrated by US in the hope that Russia would over react. Using their Russian agression as an excuse, the US probably hoped to extend the sanctions against Russia.

    We know almost for a certainty that Russian jet was in Syrian airspace. An unprovoked attack like this is a cause for war. And Medvedev voiced this yesterday.

    https://www.rt.com/news/325200-ankara-war-russia-response/

    Putin seems very confident in whatever the black box will prove. And During his meeting with Cameron Putin request that the UK should sent an expert to open the black box

    Honestly, I think it will take few months for Britain to come around after working with Russia.

    But while piece and understanding is being made between EU and Russia, something big is brewing in Iraq.

    Soudi Arabia will sent 90,000 soldiers and America will send 10,000. To a total force of 100,000.

    I think that this is related to the current Turkish presence there.

    American foriegn policy is very aggressive. It cannot have Russia gaining more support and potentially secure the gass deal which America has been planning.

    Wiki leaks has revealed that Syrian war has been planned since 2006.

    https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06DAMASCUS5399_a.html.

    America hoped Assad would over react to extremist entering his boarders. America was trying to establish a pipeline and Assad was in the way. Assad definitely overreacted. Russia steped in and saved Assad in order to get the gas deal themselves.

    This was a slap in the face for America who has been planning this since 2006. So they had Turkey shoot down russia jet that was in Syrian air space in hope that Russia would respond agressivery towards this unprovoked attack. No doubt there would have been reports of "Russia Invades Turkey" in the headlines in an attempt to vilify Russia.

    Russia has revised their economy and is now starting to grow despite the sanctions imposed against them. So when the sanctions end, Russian economic will be that much more stronger than it was before.

    No doubt the whole charade with Soudi Arabia and OPEC was to also done on purpose to weaken russian economy since it heavily rely on oil.

    "To maintain market shares" is an unrealistic explanation. They know how this works and Soudi Arabia isn't dumb. They maybe backwards, but they're not dumb. Why would they knowingly bankrupt themselves just to retain market shares? It obviously a dumb very short sighted move that will do more harm than good. No doubt they were promised compensation for this later.

    So now at this satge, I don't think that 90,000 Soudi Arabian soldiers going to Iraq is a coincidence. I see something brewing.

    As Russia is starting to get friendly with Europe over Syria, 100,000 soldier are amassing in Iraq.
     
  2. Alucard

    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    I don't think America should send 10,000 troops to Iraq.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yeah be like a sandwich play here being eaten by iran on one side, isis and or Russians taking pot shots at them on the other,just like a old time a shooting gallery..
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    I concur, they should have been left in Iraq back in 2011.

    But Valerie Jarrett told Obama not to listen to his military advisers. Obama told Valerie "I never listen to my military advisers."

     
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    Unless I'm mistaken the oil wells in Iraq are leased by China. Is China going to stand idly by and watch Iraq being invaded by 90,000 Saudi troops? Also what about Iran? Will they stand idly by and watch an enemy Sunni country invade a friendly Shia nation?

    Also, where will these invaders be going? If it's in the north, then will they be allied with the Turkish invaders or will they be at odds?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And I believe you are extremely confused and strange.
     
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    Trolls are Trolls : )

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    Extraordinary.
     
  9. MMC

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    The Saud are fighting in Yemen. I doubt we will see 90k of their troops going into Iraq.
     
  10. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We're not going to see 10,000 troops going into Iraq, either. The report is bunk.
     
  11. One Mind

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    So, the deal made under bush, which included withdrawal, for the US was given no guarantee that American soldiers would not be tried for crimes against civilians, collaterial damage, and which Obama stood by, does not play at all into your narrative? Conservatism is an ideology grounded in NO MEMORY. Either they have zero memory, or they just ignore what came before.

    You know, it so refreshing when people post, that pay attention to facts. This isn't one of those obviously. Yet it is used by the right side time and time again, for perhaps they think that others are as lacking a memory as they are? I dunno.
     
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    Gen. Smedley Butler, who saved FDR was the coup planned by our rich oligarchs, wrote a book, War is a Racket, in which he said that the American flag follows the money, the profits of the elites, and then the American soldier follows the flag. And nothing has changed since the era of Gen. Butler. Yet so few know of the man, his book, or they just do not care of the facts.

    Why is it that, so many American people are so easily conned, deceived, and become dupes? Are we that stupid, as a people? Or is it that many of us use war, the killing, the destruction as entertainment, that we can sit in our easy chairs, pop a top on a can of beer, and get entertained by our poor dying for our elites, as they chase an insatiable greed?

    Earlier americans had much more sense, even if they never finished the 8th grade. Of course our oligarch elites have always tried to con the people, but it was much harder in the past. As a people, we just had much more common sense it seems. Not so apt as to be made fools of by clever propaganda, which of course now is legal to use on us, after the 2012 patriot act trashed the anti propaganda law enacted in 1941.

    The breaking of international law, by what we have done in the middle east would never have been tolerated in the past, for we helped to write those laws at Nuremburg. But America, ruled by oligarchs and their insatiable greed are above the law, and this means this imperial oligarchic empire is on the downward spiral, which all empires who succumb to stupidity suffer. And no one cares, not even the average American. They seem to want to be entertained by it all. But in the end, they are the losers, and are too stupid to see that. Rational brains no longer exist in large part amongst the population here. Only this silly tribalism exists, with the elites taking full advantage of it, dividing the people, conquering them, and destroying the republic, giving us an oligarchy, which the oligarchs will even make public.
     
  13. MMC

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    Yeah the Saud have 30k on the Border to try and keep Daesh from entering their Country. Plus fighting in Yemen and Keeping that border occupied. Is about all they can handle.
     
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    They would need permission.
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    Ayatollah Sistani says, "No Foreign Forces Without IraqÂ’s Consent."

    Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani calls on the government to show "no tolerance" towards any side that violates the country's sovereignty.

    In a statement released on Friday, Ayatollah Sistani said neighboring states must not send troops to Iraq without the consent of the Iraqi government.

    The statement, read by the hugely influential cleric's spokesman Sheikh Abdul Mehdi Karbala'i, did not name any country but it was apparently referring to Turkey which deployed a heavily-armed contingent of troops to northern Iraq last week.

    http://en.alalam.ir/news/1768245
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    No hint of 90 000 Saudi troops or 10 000 US troops.
     
  15. Jazz

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    Daesh is getting desperado to stay alive. Apparently, and according to Bashar Assad, Turkey is their only lifeline.
    Read here:
    http://en.alalam.ir/news/1768317
     
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    Yes, Turkey downing a Russian plane was orchestrated by the U.S.

    Nothing happens on this planet without CIA approval.

    Brilliant.
     
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    Huh... So you're thinking then, that as a complete unknown was set into the office of the Presidency, whose first act in office was to spend in deficit an order of magnitude beyond his predecessor... more than doubling the US annual accumulation of debt... attacking the means of US Citizens to defend themselves, dry up ammunition... attack US Citizens right to assemble, promote the interests of the enemies of the US, reversing all of the gains made by the US in the Middle East... providing the means for Russia to enter the Middle East war... in the wake of that same brown clown having licensed and funded with 50 billion dollars, Iran's Nuclear program... leaving the US on the brink of economic catastrophe and unable to offset Russian plays on longstanding European allies of the US?

    Huh... No arguing with THAT! Sounds spot on.
     
  18. MMC

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    Mornin Jazz. [​IMG] Do you think any will listen to him? I think the US has about 3800 Hundred in Iraq, already. Could be as high as 4200.

    Of course, you know when BO said no Troops on the ground.....that he was lying, Right?
     
  19. MMC

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    Yep.....call it BO peeps so called smart powers. Which are very limited and one dimensional in thought process. Like the majority of the Leftists in the US.
     
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    we couldnt leave them could we

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    not much truth in what you say.
     
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    Saudi Arabia is not the only Gulf state.. and the US has no need of a pipeline through Syria... So why don't you rethink your position?
     
  22. MMC

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    Oh.....there is quite a bit of truth in it. You forget.....BO peep hasn't been a politician all that long.

    And yes.....his thought process was always one dimensional and very limited. Good thing he had the Demos around to help save him.
     
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    when you follow what actually happened we could not leave troops there. the right can pretend all it wants but I prefer to not have US troops subject to Iraqi courts.
     
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    The US should swamp Syria with troops and shoot down all Russian aircraft to get rid of these Russian pests from interfering in the middle-East. The future of American influence lies in the middle East and Russia is not welcome in these areas. Early influence in ridding Russia's attempts to make any influence in this region is strongly recommended.
     
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    This reads like a combination conspiracy theory and out and out Russian propaganda. I have no idea what is true in the initial post.
     

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