Modern "victim feminism" in a nutshell

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  1. SpaceCricket79

    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    *Claims that women are strong enough to serve in Navy Seals and be heads of state...

    *...yet thinks that women are so weak that they need protection from "Youtube trolls", "sexploitative advertizements", and "high heels"... protection by white male politicians no less.

    :alcoholic:

    Seems like modern feminism is less about women's independence, and more like "neo-chivalry". Just with "women need special protection because they're weaker" swapped with the idea that "women need special protection because they're oppressed".
     
  2. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you have anything to back up that definition of "feminism?"
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Not going to bother with the No True Scotsman fallacy.

    If someone calls themselves feminist and espouses these views then that's what I'm going to define as feminism.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then its circular reasoning solely on your own definition.
     
  5. CCitizen

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    That does not make them weak -- Joseph Stalin was also protected from criticism in USSR.
     
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    There should be a symbol that you have to put next to a term that's used to describe a person or a group. Similar to a copyright or trademark symbol, this symbol would specify whether the version of that term that you're talking about is the real life version or the internet version. The real life version is whatever feminists are in real life. The internet version is the combination of all the worst stereotypes that is used to describe whatever group your subject is, sometimes given the illusion of authenticity by odd stories involving a handful of people that seems to, at least to some degree, match the caricature.

    Maybe it could be a little circle with an I in it. Would probably need to be a capital I, the one with the line on top and bottom, so that it didn't look like a number 1.

    On an unrelated note, whichever person it was that thought it would be a good idea for a lower case L and an upper case i to look the same in computer text should be smacked across the face with a fish.
     
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    Basically its about equal opportunity as a baseline for avoiding discrimination, and it transcends sex. The other issues represent areas of vulnerability that exist within the female population and therefore are more specific to sex discrimination.

    Most men don't get that most women are victimized and bullied under normal private and public circumstances at a level most men would not tolerate - but women do not have the same capacity as men to leverage their human rights in those grey areas that the law cannot realistically reach. Feminism is not a bad thing, its just easy pickings for people who have a bone to pick. There is good and bad feminism, so often it's stereotyped by the bad bits by people who don't like it, and good bits by the people who do need it. The only thing I'd be concerned about is when people who don't like something exert influence over people who need something. The problem arises that because the culture pre-feminism was very oppressive to women, that it still exists in many ways to various extents, and so much of the people who need feminism are already victims in various ways and not the best representatives for feminism - because they have exaggerated opinion and emotions as a result of being victims - which again makes easy pickings for those who don't like it.

    It's a topic which really brings out the weak saps in the world - who like to pick on the vulnerable to elevate their ego.
     
  8. Independant thinker

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    Feminists bully good looking girls and then bully them harder if the good looking girls dare to appear bullied.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have yet to meet these "Feminists" so many here are fixated on. I have met strong women, beautiful women, lesbian women, successful women...all of which seem to be considered feminists by people threatened by them in some way. I wonder is this "feminist Movement" is simply a manifestation of men who do not get laid.
     
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    Many antifeminist men are married, and many others have long term relationships.

    Most profeminist men have only one goal in life -- and most feminists understand it.

     
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    Post modern feminism has devolved into mass rape fantasy. Do not expect any loud denunciations of IS from "feminist" "leaders".
     
  12. axialturban

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    Lol, are you trying to suggest only ugly bullies are feminists? That is some bizarre nonsense to suggest. I know plenty of feminists who are stunning and feminine, and certainly not bullies.
     
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    Say hi to everyone at the University you work at.
     
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    The university of real life you mean?

    :hippie:
    You need to share what your smoking....
     
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    The university of real life?!:roflol:
     

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