It’s Time to Ban Guns. Yes, All of Them

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  1. OMC

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    Some? You mean the minutemen??

    For god's sake.

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    Sometimes you gotta clear out a bunch of brush and snakes.
     
  2. tsuke

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    I think people dont really want to admit that gun control would not have stopped san bernandino. The couple had dozens maybe even hundreds of guns as well as some explosives obtained in the strictest state. How much did they actually need to carry out the attack? 2?
     
  3. Grizz

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    Ban guns? Nonsense. Make and sell all the guns you want.

    If you really want to solve multiple problems, ban ammunition and all equipment/material related to reloading (powder, bullets, molds, etc.). Ammunition will likely be used up faster than almost any gun (which, with reasonable care, are about indestructible) and you've solved one problem. Plus, since you can buy any gun you want, those who are compensating (for whatever) can buy really big ones to show off to their buddies. Probably keep everybody calmer and we'll have a more productive and happier society. Right?
     
  4. Darkbane

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    well not to dive too deep into the subject... so lets take a quick and light approach...

    society has banned all sorts of things, and made them illegal to own or do... but yet society still manages to do all those things today... despite being illegal...

    how will this be any different?
     
  5. BPman

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    Hey Grizz, remember this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_recall_election,_2013


    :clapping:
     
  6. Grizz

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    It will be different because guns are different, quite unlike alcoholic drinks or some illegal drugs which are easily procured and/or replaced. If you want to make gun, there is a fair amount of expertise needed; maybe less so with ammo, but you still need a reasonable background to do it ... and equipment. You don't just whip up a semi-auto gun as easily as you can make a bottle of wine. Anyway, even without banning guns, there are some reasonable steps which can be taken - if we just had the will to move.
     
  7. Darkbane

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    so once again, another solution of yours that wouldn't work...

    and neither would your "reasonable steps" link... its just more mantra preaching that has already been tried in areas, and shown ineffective...

    once again the problem isn't legal gun owners, its the criminals... start focusing on them, not the law-abiding folks...
     
  8. Grizz

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    I would hope that you have not taken seriously my sarcastic rejoinder to ban all guns. I would also hope you would take the suggestions in the Times editorial more seriously because they do work if not gutted.

    What has caused those various laws to be "ineffective" is later legislation that made them that way or totally took them off the books. Make gun sellers and manufacturers liable once again, and you'd find a whole lot more care being taken in just who sells what to whom. And that's just one step.

    You have two problems - yes, criminals but when coupled with easy access to weapons of war, that's when you got a real mess.
     
  9. mdrobster

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    Please don't encourage them with dialog. The notion that all guns can be confiscated is beyond the notion of reality. This is just another false narrative to scare people. Just try to image the level of effort, time, money and man power it would take to even do it in one small town, let alone anything greater.
     
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    Civil war part 2.

    If democrats think getting rid of illegals is IMPOSSIBLE, imagine going into the homes of people who have literally never broken any laws and forcibly taking something they legally obtained.

    Gun owners have history behind them. This country was founded because the citizens were able to use guns to kick an impressive govt out. Sound familiar?

    It's what the nazis did before they took over.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Hot damn! After they get their magic wand working and have guns banned successfully, then they can give their magic wand to DEA so that drugs can be banned too. :grin:
     
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    So you do want to end the 2nd....
     
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    Beat me to it. But watch out the label that is so RACIST is coming......
     
  14. mdrobster

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    seriously, calculate, time, money, logistics, material and man hours, and anyone with a 1st grade education would understand the impraticality of such an effort
     
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    Gun control is racist and only Hitler would support it.
     
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    This is a video for all Americans to watch, and my hope would be to save a liberal loon by deprogramming them and save our nation.

    [video=youtube;hR3t7j2tUec]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR3t7j2tUec[/video]
     
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    I praise Phoebe Maltz Bovy.
     
  18. Darkbane

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    is microsoft responsible for hackers using their software?

    are beer makers responsible for drunk drivers consuming their alcohol?

    will the US government be responsible when it approves someone who later murders someone they approved?

    you see how stupid this logic is...

    or would you have the three entities above all become responsible for the actions of individuals?

    who should I sue for the murder of my brother, the US government since they approved the background check on the individual who killed him? or the individual who did it? should I sue the gun maker who sold the legal gun to the legal store owner, who followed the law and ran a background check that failed to catch this individual? should I file lawsuits against all of them? or none of them? they all contributed in your eyes, should your tax dollars be given to me for someone elses mistakes?

    at what point is an individual responsible for their own actions?

    are car makers responsible for people who misuse their vehicles and plow into crowds of people like that nutjob months ago did?

    are knife makers responsible for every stabbing that occurs in america?

    is bed bath and beyond responsible to run a background check on people who purchase knife sets?

    is that clerk who failed to ask for ID when you bought knives responsible?

    is mcdonalds at fault because someone took too big of a bite and didn't chew their food, and choked on that hamburger? is the bun maker responsible? is the cheese maker responsible? is the pickle grower responsible? should the farmer who supplied the milk to make the cheese be responsible? should they all be responsible?

    who is responsible when I trip over my shoes because I didn't tie my shoelaces... should I sue the shoe maker or the lace maker, or the store that sold them to me?

    who is responsible when I get a sliver from handling a piece of wood... should I sue the construction company, should I sue the lumber maker, should I sue the tree?

    who should I hold accountable for the headache you gave me, the person who made this computer, the person who made the hard drive, should I sue my internet provider, should I sue this website, or should I sue you for the logic fail you continually push that hurts my head? should I sue all of you?
     
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    By stupid idea you mean history?
     
  20. Pardy

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    I'm not talking about war, because the US isn't a war zone. People are bringing infantry rifles into their homes thinking that they're making them safer.

    Unfortunately, it's this absurd belief that is sustaining the mass shooting problem. It's also nonsense because it implies that countries with almost no guns have almost no freedom, which is false.

    You're "free"? Great, I guess we won't be hearing any complaints about Obama's "tyranny."
     
  21. OMC

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    America has a warzone, it's called chiraq.

    Countries without a 2nd A have as much freedom as their governments allow.
     
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    Well people better stock up on ammo since that is the first thing the government will enforce before going after your guns.
     
  23. Hummingbird

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    Do you have a problem w/an armed homeowner having the freedom to protect his family from home invaders?

    Or are you one of these who thinks all the homeowner has to do is have a bat or hammer handy and he can get control of thugs?
     
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    I never said that guns were the ONLY freedom. Question for you; would you like to see anything in the constitution eliminated or changed?
     
  25. Professor Peabody

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    I'll go along with that when they disarm their Body Guards, Secret Service details, Police and the National Guard..
     

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