Political assassination and the law

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  1. Molly David

    Molly David New Member

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    President Reagan signed into law, a law that prohibited America and Americans from indulging in this political issue. But with Drones being used freely on a daily basis authorized by the President. Don't we have just that now, but under another name. I.e. The war against ISIS. How long before a drone is used on US soil against a supposed ISIS cell here in US. That surely then opens a big can of worms for the politicians to argue about.

    Don't get me wrong I am all for defeating evil terrorists somehow. But political assassination under the guise of the use of drones is surely not the way.

    In the hands of the GOP this weapon would allow US to become a dictatorship. Who could stomach Trump as President authorising drone attacks on immigrants.

    Any thoughts please.
     
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    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    Drones are scary.
     
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    I have no problem with drones protecting the borders. I can not think of a better deterrent. After 'zapping' a few hundred Illegals word will filter back. :wink:
     
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    Many laws that appear well-intentioned aren't. The inevitable abuse of power usually is the goal. If law enforcement can kick in the wrong doors and toss concussion grenades in a child's crib or shoot sleeping children in the head, who's to say there will be no accidents in droning the wrong place. Whoops, wrong place. "Safety" over liberty, they'll tell you.
     
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    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Even President Reagan did not follow his own law really. Think about the mass murdering of CIA and their vassals in El Salvador.

    The drone war is on one hand a good tool to chase and hunt terrorists and so on in the world and useful for sure, but on the other hand it is by law not really correct that the US government is playing prosecutor, judge and jury outside the territory of the USA for Non-US Citizens!
    Even when this is reasoned with the phrase of war against terror to rate these persons as war enemies to kill them elsewhere in the world, why the hack are those person which were captured instead killed not put under Geneva Convention etc. with Guantanamo? So my point here is that who says A has to give A too.
     
  6. Molly David

    Molly David New Member

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    Yes, who created US as judge, jury and law enforcer here. I think the rest of the western world has acquiesced on this and the US people have let the President go on this. It is his job after all to protect the American people. But I am not sure that he is doing this with drones. How long before one gets used against us. When will an aggressor use one against us?

    I think this whole ISIS issue is dragging us towards WW3 sadly.
     
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    Well ... if the rest of the West acquiesced in this was mostly only because a) they agreed with it, b) they won't get into dispute with the US or c) they simply don't care about, because of lowest interest!

    I don't think that this whole ISIS issue will dragging us to WW3 ... but it can cause conflicts until the last one of those involved in region understood that they have to exterminate ISIS totally and not with half ass only. Why the hack are they not bombing these oil fields and installations to the next galaxy? No oil for ISIS to sell on black market = no money to fight = they will become very fast a troll organization!
    But our smart governments are playing the 3 monkeys and come with BS jabbering of "we need these fields intact to create later a new Syria..."!
    WTF??? :steamed: Did you let the Krupp factories unhurt when bombing Nazi Germany to win WW2 due to fact that it is needed after the won war to re-install Germany? :roll:
     
  8. Molly David

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    I hope you are right. I am not so sure.

    Empires that became complacent about their power are as vunerable as the opponents they try to oppress, IMO. US made a huge mistake by going into Iraq in the first place, which created the ingredients for hatred of US and ultimately ISIS. It might be argued that the Iraqis were better off under Saddam Hussein. We didn't make things better for them. In fact they seem to have got worse since US invaded Iraq. This is not good.
     
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    Its not use outside the borders I think about. It us that they might be used inside. What happens when an aggressor country or organization gets them (Its only a matter of time). Do we create a Drone plan treaty that prevents others developing them? How do we know another country diesn't gave them. They must have, secrets aren't secrets anymore.
     
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    Cons are saying that even Americans like Bergdahl shouldn't get a trial, just put them in front of a firing squad.

    If cons win next year, they'll be cranking up the ovens for all the Mexicans, Muslims, blacks, and liberals too. Heil Trump!
     
  11. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's not true. I like Mexicans, their food is delicious. No problem with peaceful Muslims. I could care less if a person is white, black, brown or pink with purple polka dots as long as they are good moral people. Liberals........well planned parenthood is taking care of that.
     
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    You do realize that Obama has already ordered the use of drones on American citizens overseas. As far a I know, Obama is not a republican.
     
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    Are you stating your hope or is that a liberal prediction?
     
  14. Molly David

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    I didn't realize that, but if he has then that is exactly what I am worried about within our borders, whatever political party we have in power. I just think the like of Trump and other Gop leaders would be more likely on shore.
     
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    Killing leaders of a group that is making war on the United States is not "political assassination" ...
     
  16. Molly David

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    I agree PP " good moral people" brought up responsibly is what we need a lot more of. Non thinking narrow minded Republicans or Democrats or anyone who doesn't know right from wrong, we don't need at all.
     
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    So even after being informed that Obama did this action you detest you still want o blame only republicans? Can you say political bias?
     
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    And what is it then please?
    If you come now with the phrase of "war against Terror" and so they are "war enemies" ... well ... why are you giving then your war enemies not the rights of a war enemy as legal POW if you capture them?
     

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