The Muslim Claim to Jerusalem

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Arab? you mean Muslim.

    the two are not synonymous.

    and yes, the Muslim Andalusians were kicked out by the invading Christians.
     
  2. Thunderbolt

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    The Spanish Reconquista (i.e. the liberation war) was over in 1492, but the Spanish Moslems were expelled in 1609.
    After 117 years of brutal persecution by the "Holy Inquisition", aimed to destroy their faith.
    An absolutely inappropriate model.
     
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    Comparing the modern-day Israel to the 16th. century Spain means distorting the truth and harming a just cause.
     
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    The Spanish Moors were Arabs.
     
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    The one's with the slings. :wink:
     
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    Unfortunately, by the time they "won the land" siezing territory by conquest had become illegal.
     
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    Mainly Berbers.

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    No, that's what the Zionist Europeans did, you're confused.
     
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    A rare neutral and disinterested critique in a world where most are siding with one or the other.
     
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    Well, that's a first. Using the words "neutral" and "disinterested" in a sentance involving a Daniel Pipes opinion piece...:rolleyes:
     
  10. HBendor

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    There are no <people in history that willfully renounced ownership of their country>...
    So why the Jewish People <give up ownership of their ancestral home>?

    Watch this...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU9CauJP4Pg
     
  11. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ownership is a legal concept.

    are you saying the Jews possess an eternal land deed for Palestine?
     
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    Nooooooooooooo... But they have an <eternal deed> on Eretz Ysrael!
     
  14. Cheddar

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    Oh really? Executed by whom? And define 'Eretz Ysrael'
     
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    Eretz Ysrael = The Land of Israel!!!

    Executed at the time by the <highest Authority>!!! I am not going to go into religious declarations... exactly as the Christians will not do so to explain their religiosity. And the Muslims will not explain the basics for Mohammad to be <Rasoul Allah> the messenger of Allah turned Prophet... So you see friend <at the time> religion was the determining factor.
     
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    says who? the non-existant God? LOL!!!!
     
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    I challenge you to declare the above in relation to Muslims and Christians.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i do it all the time, You just don't follow my posts.
     
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    Link to that statement <do it all the time> please!!!
     
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    I wasn't asking for a translation. Please define the boundaries of your so-called 'Eretz Ysrael'
     
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    There is nothing to define... Just open a Bible and read...
     
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    the bible is a book of religion, its not a legal book that has any legal significance.

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    i constantly take on the silly religious beliefs of devoute Muslims and Christians.

    by the way, are you a practicing Jew? do you try to follow the rules of the Torah?

    if not, your so-called claim to Eretz Yisrael is a fraud
     
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    Nothing to define?? NOTHING?? So your 'Eretz Ysrael'... your 'Land of Israel' is NOTHING?? If that is so, why has so much blood been shed in trying to populate it? How will you know where to stop?
     
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    Not worth retorting... Keep well.
     
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    And people care about semantics for what reason? What be thy meaning in todays world?
     

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