THE BELLS TOLL FOR HILLARY The FBI is closing in.

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes this is the American Spectator so expect the knee-jerk simple dismissals from the left. But's let's look back in history. It was among the early reporters of the Clinton scandals and led the way with the State Trooper interviews exposing Clinton for the sleazebag he is. And they were right, their reporting ended up factual and correct.

    So now comes

    THE BELLS TOLL FOR HILLARY
    The FBI is closing in.

    The Federal Bureau of Investigation will recommend that the Justice Department bring criminal charges against Hillary Clinton and various of her aides, and soon. The evidence consists of materials that the Bureau has gathered in the course of its months-long investigation of Mrs. Clinton’s personal server. The recommendations will come very soon.

    The charges will consist of some of the following:

    1. Improper disclosure or retention of classified information.
    2. Destruction of government records.
    3. Lying to federal agents.
    4. Lying under oath.
    5. Obstruction of justice.

    All the counts are familiar to those of us who have followed the Clintons for a quarter of a century, but, as one source familiar with the FBI’s investigation told me, the evidence has now reached a “critical mass.”

    There are those who have told me that the FBI has been engaged in a ruse. And that the Bureau will report it has come across nothing criminal. Then the whole imbroglio is expected to blow over.

    But such cynics are in the minority. Most sources have told me the investigation is genuine, serious, and all but completed. One told me that it was completed two months ago. The Bureau has put together a case that as one source put it “is locked up. It is solid.”

    In the past, as FBI agent I.C. Smith wrote in his book Inside: A Top G-Man Exposes Spies, Lies, and Bureaucratic Bungling Inside the FBI, the Clintons have benefited from a few corrupt agents, usually in Arkansas. But that was years ago, and in Arkansas. This is the FBI in Washington, at the top where there are plenty of utterly professional law enforcement officials. They believe truth matters and so does the pursuit of justice. “They have been building a case that is unassailable,” one source told me. “It is beyond the case against Petraeus.… It is about the violation of federal statutes.”

    The only question now is will the recommendations come this month or within sixty days. Politicians with the presidential itch such as Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State John Kerry hope the FBI’s recommendations will come in a week or so to allow them to get into the race. Other observers say the decision will come later. “The FBI,” said one source, “does not care about politics.” Whether it comes tomorrow or in sixty days, Justice Department policies mandate making such decisions as far in advance of elections as possible. If there are conflicting winds blowing in the Bureau or DOJ, they must avoid the appearance of being motivated by partisan politics.

    Yet such is the gravity of the charges and the consequences of neglecting them that they cannot be ignored. If they are ignored, people familiar with the investigation say, it will be impossible to prosecute future defendants being charged with the mishandling of classified information. Said Joseph DiGenova, a former U.S. attorney, “The intelligence community will not stand for that. They will fight for indictment and they are already in the process of gearing themselves to basically revolt if [the Attorney General] refuses to bring charges.” FBI Director James Comey has reportedly said he will resign if the Bureau’s recommendations for charges are ignored.

    One source familiar with the case said the indictments will begin with the “small fish” starting with Bryan Pagliano, the keeper of Hillary’s server, and move on to the Big Enchilada, Hillary. Whatever happens, seasoned political players have claimed Hillary will continue in the race for Democratic nomination. Joe Trippi, former campaign manager for 2004 presidential candidate Howard Dean, was overheard in the Green Room at Fox saying Hillary will run to the end.

    http://spectator.org/articles/65131/bells-toll-hillary

    This is getting quite serious folks, the inane defenses are about to be tested. Obama could be facing his own Saturday Night Massacre here.

    We just had the email released where she explicitly tells and aid to remove the header with the classification contained in it so that it could then be sent outside the secure system through which he had been trying to send it because it contained classified information. The Hillary supporters better be considering a plan B.
     
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    I think it's unlikely to matter to most libs what she has done. She's clearly unfit to be POTUS. Her health is in significant question. She attacked the multiple women who accused her husband of sexual assault. Her behavior as first lady of Arkansas and the US was atrocious. Remember Travelgate to just name one event. As a US Senator her record was spotty at best and as Sec of State she was atrocious. She's also a pathologic liar. Remember the "sniper fire" incident that was swept under the rug? Yet the MSN gives her a pass.
     
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    i dont like this. I really dont think a sanders presidency is good for the country mostly due to his stance on immigration. I mean germany is a big red warning sign already.

    i think sanders vs trump guarantees a sanders win but hillary vs trump guarantees a trump win.
     
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    If there is a shred of credibility left in our criminal justice system, the FBI will issue a criminal referral for Hillary. The question then becomes who will replace her as the Democratic candidate? I'm still betting Uncle Joe isn't out of the picture.
     
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    Nothing is going to happen to Hillary.
     
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    They better start hurrying up, filing deadlines are approaching. The Democrats keep trying to rib the Republicans about a possible borkered convention, they may well be facing one of their own.

    And Biden, he made it crystal clear he is NOT interested, his family and personal life just do not allow it, he was so unequivocal he had Obama standing there next to him, the Republicans will be all over the fact that they are running a man who doesn't want the job, that he himself doesn't believe he is able for the job. How can they run him, and Kerry? Any of the Republicans would eat his record alive.
     
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    Your source is questionable, at best.
     
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    So basically, a Hillary Indictment means a Republican President for 2016. That impacts Republicans as well. While some Republicans wanted to gung-ho for the wild card, they may now seek to play it safe again with the "contender" eliminated via her own criminality.
     
  9. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh as I said I knew there would be the knee-jerk dismissals, but ironic they said the same thing back during the original scandals and guess what...........they were right. And I can well imagine Tyrelle has good sources on this.
     
  10. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    ROFL I have no idea, this election is so turned on top of it's head and I have no idea how accurate the polling is as is being reported in NH people are sick of being called an not answering the phones and with so few having land lines. Who knows who is going to win or who will be here in 3 months.

    But one thing for certain the longer Emailgate has been going on the worse it has looked for Hillary and now it appears Blumenthal may have had access to NSA information to use in his private security company.

    Hillary’s EmailGate Goes Nuclear

    "..........No surprise, NSA is aflutter this weekend over this strange matter. One Agency official expressed to me “at least 90 percent confidence” that Mr. Blumenthal’s June 8 report was derived from NSA reports, and the Agency ought to be investigating the matter right now.

    There are many questions here. How did Sid Blumenthal, who had no position in the U.S. Government in 2011, and hasn’t since Bill Clinton left the White House fifteen years ago, possibly get his hands on such highly classified NSA reporting? Why did he place it an open, non-secure email to Hillary, who after all had plenty of legitimate access, as Secretary of State, to intelligence assessments from all our spy agencies? Moreover, how did the State Department think this was Unclassified and why did it release it to the public"
    http://observer.com/2016/01/hillarys-emailgate-goes-nuclear/
     
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    Don't get me wrong--I would love to see her driven from public life and her husband with her--but conservative sites alleging the end is near for Hillary have been 100% wrong for as long as I can recall.
     
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    you guys really waste a lot of energy with all the Hil hate, if she was a kon you'd be her biggest fans having sided more with your issues the left's, then there's all the alleged corrupt chicanery, the endless scandals, getting away with murder, blue dress vs pant suits, and if she's such a big fat liar... then she's perfect for you!
    just accept that she's not going down or out, no perp walk, and the steady media drip is boring, people have decided she's hold their nose vote worthy when faced with what the opposition offers with the horrific likes of Cruz and the absurdity of Trump. only Sanders can keep her from being your 2nd worst nitemare, and plenty of your voters are already going with Bernie.
     
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    My bet is Obama does not have the balls to back his FBI director up and allow the DOJ to prosecute. The quandary is is if the FBI director recommends prosecution and Obama will not let the DOJ prosecute or grants her a Presidential pardon the coverup would hurt Hillary just as bad as her being prosecuted
     
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    They are wrong because the Clinton's and Obama administration have been able to obfuscate and delay ans drag it out? The same thing was said wag back when and they ended up being right.
     
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    The Clinton's are ABOVE THE LAW !
     
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    Care to share with us the source for this clairvoyant-type statement? If nothing happens to Hillary, it will undermine the laws of the United States.
     
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    those with such insight don't leave calling cards but the word has been out for a while and this exercise, like all the others, is obviously just more hate driven drip drip agenda mongering which, right or wrong, she'll survive.
     
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    Hillary for Prison 2016!!
     
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    can we get a DOH! ?
     
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    [video=youtube;THbc_Qw8FxA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THbc_Qw8FxA[/video]
     
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    If "Sanders / Warren" is truly unbeatable, you should be happy at the prospect of Hillary having to drop out.

    Regardless, it has nothing to doe with "hate". Hillary put national security at risk with her incompetent decisions surrounding the use of e-mail outside approved secure channels. That's not partisan -- just plain fact. It's hard to imaging the FBI won't come forward with a criminal referral at this point. If they do, which is probable, it doesn't matter what the DOJ does with it. She''ll be through.
     
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    she's becoming increasingly irrelevant and can do whatever she wants, with S'W it's a slam dunk
    but to say the 30+ year obsessed vendetta against the Clintons, regardless of validities, isn't partisan is crazy, and you know that, it's been plain for decades while wasting a $billion and further dividing the nation and wasting focus. shamefully dumb
     
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    I'm glad the GOP doesn't have any criminals running for candidacy. They don't have, for example, a candidate who stole the national presidential election for his brother while he was governor of Florida back in 2000. They don't have a rapist and spousal abuser running either. Nor to they have a doctor who was sued 8 times for malpractice, including one instance in which he left a sponge on a patient's brain. They also don't have a former governor running who may or may not have purposely ordered lane closures to cause traffic congestion problems for a town that didn't support his candidacy for governorship. They certainly don't have a candidate who abused the rules of our political system to almost-single-handedly shut down the federal government, costing billions of dollars.

    You misspell the name of the European nationalist you quote here. The correct spelling is "convicted arsonist and murderer".
     
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    So any dismissal of your claim is a knee-jerk claim? I don't trust overtly liberal sources of news. Nor do I trust overtly conservative sources of news. Yours is the latter.
     
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    This thread isn't about the history of of the so called vendettas against the Clintons. Regardless, there has been too much dirty truth exposed about the couple to write it all off as dishonest partisan attacks. Bill wasn't impeached for illegally selling girl scout cookies. :roll: In any case, I personally have never in any of these threads dredged up any of that stuff. And I haven't done that here. Confusing the very real FBI investigation with the other noise takes away from focus.

    I honestly don't think that S/W would have a chance. They couldn't put a dent in the conservative/independent vote, and even many Democrats couldn't stomach having a pure Socialist is the White House. The country will have to devolve much further before such a ticket could possibly get national traction. You better hope that Uncle Joe jumps in before it's too late.
     

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