Americans liked Obama's speech

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  1. little voice

    little voice New Member

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    That is the problem on the Internet today with most right wingers
    They no longer limit themselves to putting a spin on the truth
    Now they just tell lies
     
  2. Stevew

    Stevew Well-Known Member

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    Ah yes, but not all politicians follow through with what they told us while campaigning. It is sad today that an excellent politician is now measured by how honest they are. Honesty should be the standard, or minimum needed to be elected.

    Steve
     
  3. Professor Peabody

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    I listened on the radio for about 10 minutes became nauseous, vomited and turned it off.
     
  4. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its easy to run up 'likes' for a speech no one watched...

    It was on about every channel yet he was down 8% from last years sleeper and only got a bit more than 18 million viewers, way less than the first GOP debate. That is under 1% of the population...way under.

    The conservative outlets saw the biggest drop as no one on the right could care less what Obama had to say. We know it is delusion (I love the Cruz line 'It was not a state of the union speech but was instead a state of Delusion speech'.) All that were left in the audience were what used to be called 'yellow dog democrats', folk who wold vote for a yellow dog if it had a (D) after its name on the ballot.

    http://deadline.com/2016/01/state-of-the-union-ratings-barack-obama-viewership-1201681973/

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    using uncooked numbers, we never left the recession and using real job numbers, we barely dropped below 10% unemployment
     
  5. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With the title of this thread, it belongs on the joke and humor forum!!!!! Nothing but rants, lies, and half truths.
     
  6. junius. fils

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    Americans liked Obama's speech

    Repubs, of course, didn't. This tells us something, not that it wasn't obvious.
     
  7. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ahh yes another one pining for the good 'ol days of 2009. Worldwide economic crash, hundreds of US banks go under, 10% unemployment. Yes, those were the days when people like APACHERAT were at their happiest. "It can't get any better than this!" they said, "no one could possibly do a better job with the economy than George W" they muttered. Do you miss that APACHERAT? Don't you wish George was back and you could to TARP every second week and twice on holidays, watch the world's largest automaker go bankrupt?
     
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    i agree...
     
  9. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who was responsible for forcing the banks to give out sub-prime loans to unqualified home buyers that led to the crisis ? Not Bush, maybe liberals, ACORN, Carter, Clinton and yes Obama when he was a community organizer in the hood on the South side of Chicago ?

    Lets spend seven years instead blaming Bush.

    The recession officially ended in June of 2009, where's the full recovery ??? There is no full recovery. All of those jobs lost aren't coming back. They are being replaced with unskilled and low paying jobs.

    Are you one of those kool-aid drinkers who has excepted the status quo ? Sounds like it.

    46 million people on food stamps today !!! And the Obama administration are proud of it.
     
  10. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since you're such a fan of George W. why don't you see if you can get him to run for VP? I know you're dying for the good 'ol days of 10% unemployment. Maybe he can finish the job and sink Goldman Sachs and Ford.
     
  11. bwk

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    With the largest budget, most well equipped, well trained military that surpasses all super powers combined, and you want to talk about condition? Lol! One can only guess where that nonsense comes from.
     
  12. bwk

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    They've been claiming lies by Obama for the last seven years, yet they seldom give details. And when they are pressed to explain those details of the so called Obama lies, they're mostly things he says that are purposely taken out of context, then claimed to be lies. And that has been the manufactured problem.
     
  13. APACHERAT

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    I'm not a fan of either G.H Bush or G.W. Bush, never was.

    FYI: THe real unemployment rate is 10% or more today.

    The American work force participation today hasn't been as low since 1979 during the Carter years.

    The only industries that have been doing good under Obama have been the gun and ammunition manufactures and taco trucks.
     
  14. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do want to talk conditions.

    Only ten out of 33 Army combat brigades are combat capable.

    1/2 of the Marine Corps aren't combat capable.

    1/2 of the Navy's ships can't put to sea and fight.

    Morale among the troops is the lowest in modern times.

    Career officers and SNCO's are stating this isn't the same military that I knew seven years ago and are leaving the service.

    The highest rate of officers being relieved of their commands in the history of the United States military.

    The purging of the Officers Corps.

    Legalizing buggery in the military.

    Last week the Obama administration ordered the U.S. Marine Corps to initiate coed basic training even though every Marine fied grade and general opposes the idea. I see more purging coming in the next year. This means that the standards have to be lowered.

    U.S. Navy as it's smallest size since 1916.

    U.S. Marines resorting to deploying Marines on civilian merchant cargo ships because not enough amphibious ships.

    PC ROE being forced upon our troops in Afghanistan and now in Iraq.

    Lowering the standards in the military in the name of PC diversity.

    Using the military for liberal social engineering experimentation knowing that every time the U.S. military has been used for social engineering soldiers, Marines, sailors and airmen end up bleeding and getting killed in the name of political correctness.
     
  15. Doug_yvr

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    What else do you miss from 2009, besides the bank failures and everyone's 401K being wiped out? How about the WMD, do you miss the boatloads of that they found? Man they were tripping over that stuff in Iraq.
     
  16. OLD PROFESSOR

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    You have assured you weren't lied to. You also assured that your opinion has no value.
     
  17. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They did find WMD's. But the left said that muster gas and sarin didn't count as being WMD's.

    And they found just as many more after this. But the MSM wouldn't report it.
     
  18. ArmySoldier

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    If your first sentence made any sense, I'd "assured" I'd believe you.
     
  19. Lesh

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    So all the Republicans who hated the speech are talking out of ignorance?

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    No kidding?

    They found the WMDs that were an international threat?

    Gee and I thought they "found" a bunch of old rusting artillery shells that were basically useless as munitions and that we had known about since the early 90s.
     
  20. Lesh

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    From MSNBC

    Last fall, the New York Times ran an impressive investigatory piece on Iraqi chemical weapons from the Saddam Hussein era, documenting previously undisclosed discoveries made by U.S. soldiers.



    A wide variety of Republicans, regrettably, misunderstood the piece. The right celebrated the news as proof that the Bush/Cheney administration was right all along about Saddam’s WMD stockpiles. Conservatives far and wide proudly proclaimed, “We knew it! Take that, liberals!”



    The right was confused. The NYT piece, though important, referenced pre-1991 weapons. Everything Republicans said in the lead up to the 2003 invasion was still completely wrong.



    With this in mind, over the weekend, the New York Times had another fascinating, well-researched piece on Iraq’s abandoned chemical weapons, and Republicans, apparently having learned literally nothing in October, are once again very excited by the prospect that Bush was “right all along.”



    Once again, Bush was not right all along.


    [N]ote that the Times story says that these weapons were manufactured before the 1991 invasion of Kuwait. Indeed, from 1991 to 1998, U.N. weapons inspectors uncovered Iraq’s secret biological weapons program and a project to enrich uranium – and then eliminated vast stockpiles of chemical and biological agents.



    Such pre-1991 chemical-weapons shells (often empty) were found by U.N. weapons inspectors just before the 2003 invasion of Iraq by the United States. The Bush administration, by contrast, staked its WMD claims on an active, on-going program that was restarted after the Kuwait conflict.

    The fact that the right hasn’t given up isn’t admirable; it’s sad. Pouncing on details Republicans don’t understand actually has the opposite of the intended effect – these bizarre, misguided celebrations serve as a reminder of just how spectacularly wrong they were, are, and will continue to be.
     
  21. RPA1

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    Obama's last State of the Union amounted to a lecture that we all should think has he does. The Republican rebuttal sucked as well. I think the American people are tired treated like we are all bad children. These politicians are so full of themselves.
     
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    I'm not going to recognize all because going down the line and reading these so called conditions, one already smells the stench of bs.
    "U.S. Navy at it's smallest size 1916" What does that tell you? We don't need it. It's that simple. And yet, we are still the largest military in the world combined.

    "!/2 of marine corps aren't combat capable". I'm sure when the bullets go to slinging, they'll find a way to shoot back. What do you think they do all day, play Canasta? And the same goes for the army.

    "Moral among the troops is the lowest in modern times". Well naturally! With a first black president that many privately condemn because he is black is a huge reason. And when I say huge, I mean huge. All one needs to do is watch those generals last night at the SOTU address. It's written all over their faces. They despise the idea of a black commander in chief.

    "Lowering the standards in the military in the name of PC". Well of course! The racism, feminism/rape in the military is so strong, especially now that we have a black president, PC diversity must be implemented to accommodate for the unruly/lawless recruits that resent not only this administration because their president is black, but they also feel it's the green light for sexual harassment of women in the military as well. They've lost all respect because of the evil black president. We never heard of PC until Obama came around. Imagine that!

    " The highest rate of officers being relieved" Again, same thing! This is all a reflection of who Obama is. Look chief, all one needs to do is look at this countries history of racism to know not a whole lot has changed from the first slave days to the forties, fifties, sixties, and today. Having a black anything in charge of a huge population of whites is not what the doctor ordered, and we all know it. That's just a fact. White's aren't used to taking orders from blacks. Their okay on a basketball court, but beyond that, they get no respect. That's just the way it has been, and the way it is today. Moral is bad for these officers, and Obama is the reason why.

    " Obama ordered coed training". What about it? If they don't make it their out. Get over it.

    So you see, all these so called conditions is nothing more than bs, to try and blame Obama. When the only thing he is at fault for, is being half black. That's the only real problem the military is having.
     
  23. APACHERAT

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    You might want to visit a VA hospital where you can find American soldiers who had to handle these muster gas artillery shells.

    If these WMD's were have fallen into the possession of Al Qaeda or even ISIS what do you think ?

    I'm not a defender of G.W. Bush, infact I opposed invading Iraq with the Clinton military that Bush inherited. That military couldn't meet the Weinberger and Powell Doctrines. But once our troops entered Iraq I had to support the troops from my own experience knowing what it feels like when one political party and your own peers back at home stab you in the back while you are still on the battlefield.

    Any time a war is politicized, you are never going to achieve the type victory that you were trying to achieve.

    I'm being honest and not making (*)(*)(*)(*) up. These weren't the type of WMD's that Bush and team were referring too. They were misled by British intelligence that Iraq had nukes. It was British intelligence who convinced the Bush administration and Congress that Iraq had nukes. But the facts are Iraq did have WMD's the type of WMD's that no soldier wants to experience on the battlefield.

    And ask those surviving Kurds who were gassed by Saddam. Muster gas and Sarin are deadly WMD's.

    Even Saddam Hussein said he was starting to believe that he had WMD's. And Saddam didn't blame G.W. Bush but the UK and British intelligence for being invaded.

    It's all here. -> http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB279/

     
  24. ArmySoldier

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    I love Obama's speeches. Like when he said he'd close Gbay, improve race relations, improve middle eastern relationships....

    Dude speaks the truth!
     
  25. Roelath

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    I enjoyed the speech. The part where I didn't tune in was the best part of it all.
     

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