Modern Physics Ends Where Life Begins

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    Cool! I was lucky enough to attend a school with a biophysics program, and took a few classes as electives. They really opened my eyes as to the complexity of life, especially mammals and even more so humans. The most complex object in the universe is the human brain. Which really makes you think about the nature of the universe and it's purpose (if it has one).

    We don't understand the relationship between thermodynamics and living systems. We don't even consider, biophysically, the relationship between quantum effects and living systems. We are ignorant.
     
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    Yes we are ignorant.

    Luckily for us, these days, we have a much better idea of what we don't know than in the past.
     
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    The human brain is the most complex thing we know about... We don't actually know if there's anything more complex in the universe or not.

    Thermodynamics and living systems, not sure what's so mysterious about that. G = H - TdS... Energy is derived from breaking bonds, and stored by making them or making gradients, etc.. Yeah yeah I know it involves a lot of complicated electron pushing and a cute little proton pump in the mitochondria.

    Quantum though.... yeah that's the stuff of headaches.. literally and figuratively.
     
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    I am not a specialist of any kind and yet I am always curious about the functioning about our brain and the origin of life. I read a lot on evolutionary topics and other stuffs that delineate certain traits or facts pivoting human life, origin etc but I find no solutions, no answers to my question and as such I hold it as a domain of mystery
     
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    18w7bi2fqnkj.jpg The K supercomputer. It is capable of 10.5 quadrillion (over ten petaflops) calculations per second.

    Life. Life is a very complex system, if it were not we would already have developed it in the lab and Bill Gates would have a patent on it (lol). I also agree that the human brain is the most complex living system. A recent experiment Japanese and German scientists illustrates how a supercomputer stacks up to a three pound brain that is fueled by a piece of toast and a cup of coffee. The German Japanese team brought a 83,000 processor supercomputer, one of the worlds most powerful, to bear against a average human brains processing capability. Unfortunately for those that might look forward to the 'singularity*' the team was able to mimic just just one percent of one second's worth of human brain activity!

    So much for machines taking over eh? I am sure one day computers will overtake the brain in brute computing power, but I have doubts if they will become self-aware. If self-awareness ever happens, well, that changes everything!
     

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