Are "alternative lifestyles" really being embraced?

I'm not sure about you guys, but in my extremely Left leaning hometown of Orlando FL, people still make fun of gays, refuse them service, and give gay servers bad tips because they are gay. Just being honest. I've seen gays shunned more often than be accepted by society.

The Govt, swingers, liberals and gays would of course Love people to believe the myth that these things are being accepted more and more, but the reality of it is that this is still a decent and honorable society, for the most part.

Gay people get treated like trash here. Most straight and normal people are still pointing and laughing at the gays and transgendered types when they see them out in public.

On the bright side, you could say that the gays do bring society together (as in the fact that strangers will come out of their bubbles to join other strangers in mockery of flamboyant gays and freaks of the sort, when instances arise whereby healthy normal folks are forced to interact with these people).

Tell me how it is in your town. Cause my town looks and acts nothing like what Hollywood would have you believe the world acts, concerning this awkward and unnerving problem.

 

There will always be perpetual adolescents trying to recapture their glory days in high school when they could score points
with their "bros" by making fun of on person or another.

And I've been on multiple jobs in Orlando, several with gay designers, and find your story to be without merit.

In Miami, we have two neighborhoods where gay people have taken broken down neighborhoods and revitalized them. There are numerous businesses her run by gay individuals - businesses that handle multi-million dollar architectural design and architecture projects and they are taken very seriously.

So basically, either you hang with adolescents or your story is just that - a story on the internet.

Not impressed.

 

In a very tine upper midwest town, about 4K people, our new GM is gay and brought his husband with him when they moved here 4 months ago to take the job.

ps - the owners of the company, private, are pretty religious. I was shocked when I found out he is gay.

 

Gays are being more and more accepted into American society. This is the 21st century; not 1958.

 

Social change takes time …

Over time, as people gain life experience and maturity, in general, for the most part, most people become more accepting of others …

E.g., at my 40th high school reunion party some years ago, one of our classmates showed up as a male-to-female trans-sexual person and the response was, "Who is that … ??? Really … ??? No (*)(*)(*)(*) … ??? *shrug* …"

 

here they could care less

now if your hetero or homo and start fondling your partner in public, the public will shun you.. because they do not want to see that in public

normal kissing as long as not sexual in nature is no big deal

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I don't care if your gay but most straight guys still joke about them especially to call a straight man gay when he does something.....well....gay.

 

You'll probably be okay if:

(1) You carry a purse, you try to keep it simple and unobtrusive …

(2) You don't be intentionally *swishy* ...

 

I do not know of any groups of straight men who do not include words such as "(*)(*)(*)", "homo", or "queer" as part of their vocabulary to ridicule their friends with.

 

I live in Redneckistan and can't say that I have observed or concluded any of the above. People pretty much go about their business as usual. The flamboyantly gay clerk at the grocery store seems to always be the preferred check out to go to even when is line is longer. Something about his gayness makes it much faster to get through his line than through the line of the straight old women clerk's I guess.

 

The technical term is "desensitization" not "maturation."

Personally I would call it "demoralization" using its more literal meaning of "loss of morals."

 

I'm sure that some people still can't *stomach* "Loving v. Virginia" and "Lawrence v. Texas" … and (the late) SCOTUS nominee, Robert Bork, thought that "Griswold v. Connecticut" was "wrongly decided" …

Part of the price we pay for "living and moving and having our being" in a liberal democratic society is that we must eventually learn to accept *differences* …
The alternative would be something more like Saudi Arabia or Germany, 1933-45 ...

 

Too bad the people doing the mocking are heterosexual preteen females and soccer moms, though.

I see you trying to attack. Don't kill the messenger. I'm just stating facts.

As far as Miami getting rebuilt by gays... Good thing all those children they're going to reproduce will be there to inherit all of that and make sure it stays that way.

 

If these odd lifestyles were mainstream and accepted, then they would not be called "alternative".

Few places look like Hollywood portrays the world. Gays are a tiny minority who are concentrated in a few major cities. In the area I live (which includes a medium size city and a couple of smaller metropolitan areas, and includes a major university), there doesn't seem to be a "gay community" at all. Its nothing like what the media portrays.

LGBT's don't bring society together, they want to force their beliefs on everyone.

 

In 2012, voters in Minnesota turned aside a proposed State Constitutional amendment that would have permanently banned same sex marriages in Minnesota …

In that case the homophobes had tried to "force their beliefs on everyone else," but we said resoundingly, "No, thank you … "

 

Think about that for a minute - a proposed amendment was presented to the general public and was rejected, the people on both sides of an issue participated in the political process and reached a conclusion in which everyone peacefully agreed to abide by, and that's your example of people forcing their beliefs on everyone? Sounds like you don't have a case.

 

I live about 90 minutes away from you in Tampa. I can personally attest that there are thousands, if not tens of thousands of persons from your neighborhood to mine who participate in what you describe as "alternative lifestyles". I know this because I am one of them, have first-degree connections with hundreds, and second-degree connections with thousands. I have NEVER witnessed (at least, not since Jr. High) anyone getting treated badly, refused service, or give bad tips. If I did, myself, and every single one of my brothers and sisters would go out of our way to see that person shamed and even fired if possible.

If you're really seeing it all around you, you have poor taste in those you choose to associate with.

 

I made my post in direct response to a claim that "GLBT" persons are trying to "force their beliefs on everyone else" ...

 

Not really. There are always minority communities of every kind. The prepper community comes to mind, who are preparing everyday for the end of the world. Some of them are already off the grid living. Like gays, hippie communities, or any other "other" category though they are in the minority.

By in large people just want to live their own lives as they please. So long as they aren't harming anyone else, so be it. I think the majority of people whether they want to admit it or not prefer to be in the general "mainstream" culture. Which of course itself is divided up, but by in large most people just go on with their lives, and are happy to work, trade, and just enjoy their lives how they wish.

 

So, you're part of a conspiring, conniving gang that goes around looking for opportunities to ruin people's lives, because you enjoy persecution.

Noted.

And the people I spoke of who are doing the mocking, thery are strangers to me. Preteen heterosexual females, soccer moms and the sort. Not a bunch of "my friends".

 

I have no problems with homosexuals, I do admit that they do sometimes have a bit of an awkward posture and carry themselves a bit off but that's not an issue.

Alternative lifestyles need not be embraced, they should just be another aspect of regular life that shouldn't be given any more attention that it's needed.

 

Hardly. More like I'm part of a conspiring, conniving gang that goes around looking for opportunities to have fun, and to enhance our own lives, because we enjoy a good time.

Just how many preteen females do you find yourself around on a regular basis??

 

I'm a delivery driver in an area near 6 different middle, elementary and high schools.

Hundreds, all the time.

Are you going to persecute me by suggesting I'm some kind of pedophile?

Let's not kid ourselves. We all know know which out of the two of our demographics is statistically much more likely to be involved in such activities, buddy.

 

I'm putting the right kind of attention to this problem with my original post.

Thank you for your contribution.

 

As soon as we start to refer to an entire group/class of persons as "they," we are not that far from pink triangles, all over again ...