President Putin 'probably' approved Litvinenko murder

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  1. bidjo

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  2. AboveAlpha

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    Hey....I am kind of bust answering a lot of backed up posts so Google Arafat's Relatives asked to return Billions in stolen Palestinian Aid.

    There is a whole bunch of reports.

    The total added up to over $20 Billion.

    With interest accumulated they calculate it to be about $26 Billion now.

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    No....I read it....although I admit to skim reading.

    But the NSA has the transcripts of Putin's KILL ORDER.

    That was the reason WHY Putin has all the word processors and computers and copiers removed from the Kremlin.

    In the wake of the US surveillance scandal revealed by the US whistleblower Edward Snowden, Russia is planning to adopt a foolproof means of avoiding global electronic snooping: by reverting to paper.

    The Federal Guard Service (FSO), a powerful body tasked with protecting Russia's highest-ranking officials, has recently put in an order for 20 Triumph Adler typewriters, the Izvestiya newspaper reported.

    Each typewriter creates a unique "handwriting", allowing its source to be traced, the report said.

    "After the scandal with the spread of secret documents by WikiLeaks, the revelations of Edward Snowden, reports of listening to Dmitry Medvedev during his visit to the G20 summit in London, the practice of creating paper documents will expand," a source inside the FSO was quoted as saying.

    Documents leaked by Snowden last month said US spies based in the UK intercepted top-secret communications by Medvedev, then president and now prime minister, during his London visit in April 2009. Russian officials were furious about the reports.

    The revelations by Snowden, currently believed to be in Moscow's Sheremtyevo airport, fed Russian fears over the dangers of the internet and electronic communications.

    "Many documents are still not created in electronic format," Izvestiya's source said. "This practice continues inside the defence ministry, the emergency situations ministry and the security services."

    Much of the country's sprawling bureaucracy appears stuck in time, resigned to using telegrams and faxes for most communications.

    "From the point of view of ensuring security, any form of electronic communication is vulnerable," Nikolai Kovalev, an MP and former head of the Federal Security Service, told Izvestiya.

    "Any information can be taken from computers. Of course there exists means of protection, but there is no 100% guarantee that they will work. So from the point of view of keeping secrets, the most primitive method is preferred: a human hand with a pen or a typewriter."

    LINK....http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/11/russia-reverts-paper-nsa-leaks

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    Arafat stole not just U.S. Aid Money but European and Arab League Palestinian Aid Money!!

    Arafat's family was begged by both Hamas and Fatah to give back the money and they could keep 10%.

    The Arafat family said no.

    The amount of money is staggering.

    This is why I keep saying if we want Peace in Israel and Palestine....the U.S. must CUT OFF ALL AID MONEY FROM ALL SOURCES!!!

    Iran already cut off all Palestinian Aid because they found out Assad who was the Middle Man was keeping it all!

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    Your persistent attempts to educate some ignorant people across the pond are to be commended. But in my opinion you should give up in your well-intended attempts to educate them and help them learn about the world around them. Stupidity cannot be cured. You should've realized that by now. By the way, good post.
     
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    Good Post???

    The chances he poisoned himself because he was trying to sell Polonium are so high it is not even worth calculating!!!

    There are no BUYERS for $10 Million in Polonium.

    This is Putin assassinating a lose end.

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    Stop talking nonsense. Murder by a Polonium is idiotic story. If the Russian security services have killed Litvinenko then he would die in such a way that no one would have guessed that this is a murder.
     
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    It's really weird that the entire western world has got it in for him, without (as I said earlier) the slightest amount of evidence. I mean, WTF does 'probably' prove?
     
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    That is EXACTLY the OPPOSITE MESSAGE that Putin and the FSB wanted to send!!!

    They sent a message that said....If you talk about our illegal activities we will have you killed anywhere you go and you will die a most painful death!!!

    THAT...is the message Putin sent.

    But NOW....we have sent Putin a message....."Hey Vlad! YOUR SCREWED!!! LOL!!!!"

    Putin KNOWS Russia is screwed!

    As he has pinned the hopes of over 145 Million people on Putin's ability to ask and be granted hep from the U.S.

    But we will help.

    But we have a LIST of things we want done.

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    I’m not surprised. There is a group of posters here with a very poor understanding of language. To them, probably sounds like definitely. They’ve never learned the difference between certainty and probability.
    In addition, I had one of those morons questioning the flag I post under because of my spelling of ‘maths’. He disqualified me from being British because of maths. Would you believe it? :roflol:
     
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    I'll believe anybloodything these days! There's no doubt that we're all going barmy. Well, not all of us, eh SS? :cool:
     
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    Barmy.

    LOL!!!

    BARMY!!! LOL!!!

    I can't even say that word without laughing out loud!! LOL!!!

    Do you know what the supposed two...together mos beautiful words are in the American English Language?

    CELLAR DOOR.

    Sound it out......SELLAIR....DOR!

    Or if Russian........SELARSKI DORAVICH.

    English/English.....Sell Hair Dougha.

    French.....Selaire Do Oar.

    Aussie.....Uhhhhmmm....What was we tawlkin bout mate? Pass me anothers Foster;s eh?

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    Oh...I forgot....you live in Fantasy Land.

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    If Putin wants to intimidate others by a terrible death, then why Litvinenko was killed only? If Putin decides to send a message, then many people will die. This is illogical as usual. Besides lying English court did not provide real evidence. England squeals about the law and objective investigation but in reality England is the lie and the hypocrisy.

    Terrorists NATO rob and kill only. USA stolen 150 billion from the Libyan people(money of Gaddafi). Return the stolen!
     
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    Tales of US terrorists have a taste of human blood.

    [video=youtube;5B0pydPFTSM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B0pydPFTSM[/video][video=youtube;hRklF2dIuBk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRklF2dIuBk[/video]
     
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    So you say, but I like to work of verifiable evidence not hearsay.

    And what you say and claim does not fit the known evidence.

    So, how do you explain the trail of Polonium discharged by Litvinenko across addresses in London BEFORE he even met the Russians who are accused of his murder?

    Why did the British authorities refuse to share the autopsy report with Russian investigators?

    How do you explain that his Italian friend, Mario Scaramella, is on the record saying that Litvinenko was involved in trafficking nuclear materials?

    How do you explain that Scaramella who flew in and met Litvinenko in London was also contaminated with Polonium even though he never met - or came in contact with - the two Russians (Lugovoi and Kovtun)?

    How do you explain the traces of Polonium found at the Hey Joe club in Mayfair, which coincidentally Litvinenko had visited 2 evenings before he even met Lugovoi? And also the traces of Polonium found at Itsu restaurant where Litvinenko dined with Scaramella BEFORE he met Lugovoi et al?

    The fact is that there are far too many inconsistencies with the evidence presented by the British authorities and used by the judge - not least the large amount that remains classified. The inquiry is, as a result, typically tainted (like so many British judge led inquiries into sensitive matters) because of its political nature and cannot be trusted.

    Thus in the last analysis I just don't buy your unverifiable conspiracy theory that the NSA has a kill order which proves Putin was responsible. In fact, it's sheer nonsense when weighed against the known evidence.
     
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    I know he was a complete thief, Alpha. My point was, however, was that he was thieving in league with senior Israeli businessmen.

    And the US will never cut off all aid from all sources. Graft and bribery remains a key component of the foreign policy of the US (as it is with Blighty too).
     
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    I think we all know who the usual numpties are... they're the ones who can't/won't absorb facts and engage in Dalek-speak --- "does not compute" and "exterminate" etc. :smile:
     
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    we all know Putin did this
     
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    That's a brilliant summary. I gather too much of a challenge for intellectual heavyweights like Ronstar, mikejones, Litwin and the rest of the team. Can they handle it? I didn't mention AA on purpose. He cannot handle it.
     
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    I couldn't agree more. [​IMG] I'd love for Cameron to respond to it - in a public arena such as Daily Politics or Sunday Politics. And then to reach a much wider audience, the ITV's Breakfast prog.? :mrgreen:

    Forget the ITV show - the intellectual limit of a typical ITV audience is thinking about what they're going to have for dinner tonight!!
     
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    Correction: we all know you think Putin is guilty for everything.
     
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    I suspect that a lot of anti-Putin sentiment is because he doesn't 'celebrate' gayness.
     
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    Are you serious? LOL!!!

    Yeah...I am sure the big conversation going on in the Village and in P-Town is all about Putin!! LOL!!!

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    The former head of French counter-intelligence, Capitane Paul Barril, has trult rocked the Litvinenko boat by saying he has proof that that it wasn't Putin/Russia who killed Litvinenko, but British and American intelligence - and that the murder was designed to "defame Russia and Vladimir Putin". The US-Uk assassination was named "Operation Beluga".

    Barril says he will make his evidence available if a credible person is chosen to run a public investigation into the matter.

    The western mainstream media is doing what it normally does with sensitive stories and is completely ignoring Barril's statement. It is a "non story". George Orwell would be proud.

    Source
     
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    Note the 'probably' though? That's one of the weasel words the BBC routinely uses with which to (subliminally?) cloak the spin they want to put across. Who cares about Litvinenko anyway - play with fire, expect to get burnt. He did, and he did!
     

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