FBI Drone Captures Moment Of LaVoy Finicum’s Death

These rat bastard federal agents are murderous pigs.

He did not charge at anybody.

He barely had a stable footing in the snow.

He had his hands up.

An FBI agent came out from the forest and shot him which indicates this was a preplanned ambush.

This smells like Waco and Ruby Ridge.

The ambush starts at the 5:45 minute mark.

[video=youtube;gjl1hefqqWI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjl1hefqqWI[/video]

FBI Drone Captures Moment Of LaVoy Finicum’s Death

 

that was badly played, if he's unarmed it's murder

 

Who did not know this would end in injustice?
















Only those that see this as justice.

 

It is hard to see what is really going on. But if you watch the video and go to 6:03 you will notice that his hands go from the surrender position to his going down. Why are his hands going down? Don’t know from the video. But the FBI said he was going to or did reach in to his waistband. Which if that is the case, this video does give some credit to that as his hands are down. If you look at the 6:06 mark it looks like hands go behind him and it appears that he reaching under his jacket.

 

Maybe we was shot and he was clinching is stomach.

 

Maybe, maybe not. But based off this video you can't really make hands or tails about what is going on. All you can tell is that he was shot and died from it. Something else that I forget to bring up. I read(i'll see if I can find it again) that this guy said that would rather die then go to jail. So.... who knows.

 

Agreed. I also read stories about this man, about how he said he "wasn't going to prison". Well, he was right, he's not in prison, he's rabbit food. I support protesters having the right to protest. However, I don't support their right to draw a gun on a cop. It's funny to watch this unfold along political lines.

Does anyone remember the idiots protesting when the black guy at the convenience store pulled a gun on a cop, and got shot? Remember the liberal morons protesting when the guy obviously pulled a gun on a cop? Well guess what, THIS is the EXACT same thing, guy pulls a gun on a cop, and the KNEE JERK defenders say it's an "execution". At least I'm consistant - I don't care if you are black or white, if you pull a gun on a cop, you get a bullet. Sorry. And no, I'm not a cop, nor a cop defender if the cop is a bad cop. He put himself in this situation, and got himself killed. Sometimes the truth hurts almost as bad as a fatal bullet.

 

If there was no reason to pull over the vehicle except to ambush them, then it is murder. Were the people a threat if they were allowed to speak at the event they were headed to? The property they had taken over was no longer occupied, so why take the men custody in an ambush on the highway? It looks very much like a planned murder from my expert view. I'm sure the Brass wanted more dead , and less witness testimony, but the victims played docile.

 

I'm not going to say you are wrong, because I'll confess to not knowing all the details. I'm glad they had left the property that was no longer occupied, but the point is that it *had* been previously occupied illegally, and I can't see any other option but for the cops to arrest them for breaking the law. Despite our disagreement, just wanted to say, I love your sig, in fact, I posted it to my facebook. I had no idea Holder said that, but being the anti-gunner he is, I can't say I'm surprised.

 

Frankly there's not enough detail in the video to tell what really happened. Not even sound to go by. It is clear that he did have his hands up at one point. It is also clear that he brought his hands down for some reason or other. We don't know the reason. Sorry, still not going to comment for or against this particular action.

 

I have to say, I didn't expect to see the FBI in the wrong, but wow... that looked really bad.

It looked like they straight up murdered him. He was no threat. They also placed the road block on a turn where if moving high speed there was no time to stop. That does not exonerate them, because they were going too fast, but it was a real set up.

 

I watched the video …

He had his hands up initially, and THEN … he reached into his waistband …

Suicide by cop ...

 

I agree, it looks like he reached into his jacket for something. I didn't see any weapon though, maybe the FBI did. If Finicum was black the left would be all over it, instead they will cheer.]

Did an agent run out in front of the vehicle, and get hit by the vehicle? 5:50

 

Hard to really tell given the distance and no sound, but it looks more like he reached before he got shot. He collapsed almost immediately, which seems consistent with the situation. Some people can reach and fire pretty quickly, so it was reasonable to put him down as soon as they couldn't see his hands. Though it's very sad. Life is short enough already.

 

This was an ambush assassination:

https://www.everipedia.com/lavoy-finicum/

[video]https://youtu.be/2wA18O_6dgw[/video]

 

They were trying to turn themselves into the sheriff. The FBI already had tried to shoot him in the vehicle prior to this, indifferent to anyone else in it. After shot and down on the ground, the FBI shot him 3 more times and then fired as many as 100 rounds into the vehicle where there others were - they having first put their hands out the window showing they were not holding guns.

While shooting at the vehicle tear gas was fired into the vehicle trying to force the women out into the hail of gun fire. Apparently the car was at too much of an angle that it provided shelter on the floorboard.

There was no "shoot-out." Shots were only fired by the FBI.

The man had 11 children an 19 grandchildren. I had posted days prior that the government was going to kill him and kill many as an example. The more it appears an outright gunning them down the more the goverment would want it this. The reason to make it clear to everyone that you cannot shoot someone for refusing to leave your property - but you do this to government property they will kill you.

That old fella was a very good spokesmen for the ranchers, so he had to die. The only regret the FBI and government will have is that they did not succeed in killing everyone in that vehicle.

I predict a majority of openly liberal and Democrat members of the forum will cheer this government killing and only regret the others probably will survive their wounds, calling those ranchers, their families and their children all "terrorists."

 

If this had happened in Israel. I would say extrajudicial killing.

Looks very bad to me.

 

That is what it looks like he is doing to me.

 

is there any audible audio?
the officer nearest would be reading the sitch better than anybody, and it seems ultimately to be suicide by cop, but handled badly from start to finish, at best

 

Why all the outrage? This happens to black people all the damn time, and it's never any big - oh.

Never mind.

 

It's funny to watch the same people who high five the cops when they murder an unarmed black kid whine about cops shooting this guy.

 

Lets recap:

An armed gang with a history of criminal behaviour seizes Federal property, issues demands and makes threats.

One member of the armed gang - well, more than one, but we'll stick with the dead guy - talks about preferring death to being taken alive/willing to die for beliefs etc etc.

Gang members then decide to go on a road trip, whereupon the authorities decide to arrest them for breaking the law, something they have undoubtedly done.

Gang members in one vehicle surrender.

Gang members in the other vehicle sit on the road for over 5 minutes with police behind them before taking off at high speed with authorities in pursuit.

Gang members then try to drive around a road block, whereupon the authorities shoot at their vehicle.

One gang member gets out of the vehicle, runs for a bit, raises his hands, then seems to reach for something in his waistband...twice.

Police shoot the gang member.

Internet erupts with claims of 'murder', 'assassination' and 'execution'.

Obviously it would have been better if no one had died, but these guys had every opportunity to give themselves up peacefully and chose not to. And by 'every opportunity' I mean days and days worth, plus multiples on the road. As Mario Puzo once noted, fools die.

Of course, if this guy had done the EXACT same stuff but had been named 'DeShaun' or 'Bilal' many of those screaming about 'murder' would be cracking a beer & cheering.

 

That's what happened and it's clear in the video. So the FBI's description of what went down was accurate.

These guys are nothing more than terrorists.

 

I fully agree with you, this playing out along party lines is too funny to watch, see my post in another thread yesterday:

"Bundy's father claims that they had their hands up when to cops shot them. Will the right start their own "hands up don't shoot" movement" in support of armed right-wing insurgents?

To note: I am against police brutality in any event. However, it is funny to see how partisanship leads to people supporting the opposite side based on the perceived political stance of the one being shot.

In my view: If a victim is unarmed, being killed by police is always excessive use of force. If the victim is armed and openly stating that they rather end up dead than in a prison cell, as in this case, the issue is not quite as clear. As always, guns only tend to escalate the situation. If the occupiers had been unarmed, there would be one less person dead and one less person wounded."

To add: The guy made tons of bad decisions, including the final one that led to his death. I think there is only one party that constantly blames people for their bad decisions. However, it only seem to be bad decisions when the offender is non-white, poor, or a liberal. If they are white and right wing, they are hailed as a patriot martyr dying for their beliefs. Very strange....

 

he kept lowering his hands and was moving all around, he was saying just kill me, which means he was a suicidal man with a gun that wanted the cops to shoot him, which means there was a real fear of him shooting the cops to get them to kill him

if you do not want to be killed by cops, drop your gun and put your hands up.... simple

if you want to be killed by cops, which he apparently did, you do exactly what he did


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