How other countries are viewing the US election

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  1. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jonathan Kay and others have put together a list of how people in other countries view this US election. For the most part the results are what you'd expect - lots of head scratching and a bit of snickering. You won't be surprised to see who favours Trump.

     
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    Haha : D

    Its bein very funny, we cant stop laughing.

    Its like nude women fightin on the MUD!!

    But no excitation at all..

    * * *
     
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    It all comes down to the radical left trying to derail the U.S. away from 240 years of its history, culture, and values. The political right isn't willing to give up the things that made us the pre-eminent country in the world. The right doesn't want us to be like Greece.

    The tension between the two sides creates drama.
     
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    Or you could end up like Canada, but with less snow. How cool would that be! :)

    Now there's an understatement!
     
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    Americans love Canada. But we don't want to be Canada on steroids.
     
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    Let the Canadians laugh on Trump.

    I think Americans had a lot more laughs watching all those videos of that crack-smoking mayor of Toronto.
     
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    I find it interesting that CNN chooses countries like South Africa, Venezuala, Iran, Russia, India, and the Brits to see how well Trump is liked around the world.
     
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    I liked the comments that the journalist from South Africa submitted about Donald Trump running an insular campaign with his bigotry.
     
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    Trump is funny. But president become Clinton . It will be the end for the United States. On the other candidates did not hear anything at all.
     
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    In English, please.
     
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    1. Trump is a clown. He managed to outplay the clan of the Bushs which were being pushed to a leading place from every here and there. He is not driving policy but is driven by it. It's dangerous. A politician needs to find a plan for saying what he thinks is right even if it is not what people want to hear. I think that his popularity is mainly based on scandals and the urge for a change which gets stronger in the american society. But having a systemic billionaire is not the best choice for a systemic change of the system which made him a billionaire.

    2. Clinton is the representative of current political elite which makes it a bloody clown. It's even more dangerous. Because she will show no change of current paradigma which is war. Besides she is bound to make 'strong' military moves in foreign policy more than inner policy.

    Afterall the elections show that democracy is a show. A country with most innovations, science, military and whatsoever has two clowns at the top fighting for absolute power. Sad? Funny? A usual thing for post-modern world. I would rather prefer something else as a result of democracy rather than choosing between the two. It would be interesting to watch the CIA officer at the top - well informed, disciplined, pragmatic (Putin type). It would be interesting to watch a start-up genius - fast decision maker thinking out of the box and able to surround himself with well-motivated and efficient professionals. It would be interesting to watch an intellectual of social anthropology - able to project history and various tendencies of the past and theoretical laws to a situation in the society of US and the world. But these guys don't have billions and a family of the Bushs or the Clintons. So they have no chance to make the elections more interesting.
     
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    I'm becoming increasingly envious of those who are able to view this spectacle from a safe distance.
     
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    If it's any consolation, it is probably good for democracy in the long run. I think that the spectacle of Trump might force the Republican party have a good look at itself and reform on a more solid footing. Trump is just a symptom of a problem in some democracies. When parties move away from their supporters, those supporters will get angry and take the party back. Unfortunately, they won't always pick the best candidate and there will be an implosion. Parties in other countries have blown themselves off the map and there is no reason that it can't happen in the US. A disastrous Trump Presidency will kill of the Republicans or at least put it on life support.
     
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    Two parties are also too few to represent the public adequately.
     
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    And what did Greece have that the US doesn't have? Tax evasion on a large scale...we have it. Corruption on a large scale...we have it. Nepotism on a large scale...we have it. Borrowing beyond our mean...boy do we have it. What Greece didn't have and we have, is a money making machine to pay off its debt.

    Anyway I have news for you, the values that made this country great like humanity and compassion, religious faith, respect towards others, ethics and morality, a sense of justice, etc., have been gone a long long time... ago in both parties.
     
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    The article seems pretty accurate. Though I'm kind of annoyed with the attitude of many Europeans towards the American election. We act all high and mighty and pretend to have a sensible political system and no crazy populists or partisan behaviour, when in actuality, the UK Labour Party has elected a leader who thinks printing money won't cause inflation, the virulently xenophobic National Front is sweeping the polls in France and similar right-wing outfits doing the same in Denmark and the Netherlands and actually governing Poland and Hungary. Not to mention SYRIZA in Greece and the mess it got itself into. American politics isn't alone in its sudden outburst of craziness; the same thing is happening across the rich world.

    The radical left is doing zilch in America (and everywhere else) which is partly why all these populists with insane policies are gaining traction. People are discontented and there is no radical alternative, so they turn to people like Trump.
     
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    Trump has four things going for him.


    1 - He is honest so he means what he says...or at least at the time he's saying it.

    2 - He has his own money which means he's not obligated to anyone, and will do what he believes is the best for the country.

    3 - He has an overblown ego, which means he won't allow others to tell him what to do.

    4 - He has the energy to carry the work load.
     
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    Are politicians ever not dishonest and out for themselves? Trump can't be different from any other politician in history. And surely listening to other people is an asset in a system with checks and balances. Putin, Xi Jinping, Viktor Orbàn etc. don't let others tell them what to do, and their countries aren't the most democratic.
     
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    He's a complete fraud and a liar. Almost everything he says (like 42% unemployment etc etc) is factually incorrect.

    More than half his campaign spending is from contributions. He hasn't been self funded for a long time.

    It's called hubris.

    He spends less time campaigning than any of the other candidates.
     
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    this is absurd. It is like the phony narrative of the left that 'all women' believe such & such, or 'all minorities' are in the bag for their agenda. How can any one person speak for 'All nations' & produce some anecdotal examples of 'how they feel'. I happen to know a good many canadians, who are very much like conservative Americans, & are not at all enamored with left wing issues, Trudeau, or socialism. So this is just another logical fallacy that the left loves.. It is just Argumentum ad populum, an assertion that 'everybody feels this way', with absolutely NO way of knowing this. It is nothing but peer pressure propaganda.
     
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    Except for those brave souls in Iran who risked everything to protest and who didn't seem to like Obama very much.

    [video=youtube;dsVU4m8TKS0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsVU4m8TKS0[/video]

    So yes, slaves and sheeps around the world want a Democrat to win presidential race in America and freedom lovers around the world don't want a democrat to win. It is as simple as that.
     
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    It simply never occurred to me to give the slightest damn what other countries think about anything we do.

    Here's an idea: If they don't like it, they can stay home!

    Win-Win.
     
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    But Trump isn't a politician, that's why he is so blunt about everything. You mentioned politicians in other countries, but if they are not democracies as you imply, then there is no reason for them to lie to the people since they don't need their votes. As for listening to the people, if the person running for office states what his position is, then it's up to the people voting for him to agree or not agree with those positions.

    Anyway here are the major lobbies that control our president, and they contribute to both parties. This way they can be assured that whoever wins will do their bidding.

    The industrial military complex.
    Oil lobbies
    Pharmaceutical companies
    Aipac
    Agri companies

    In addition George Soros has formed over one hundred charitable institutions that are able to contribute to the democratic candidate of his choice. He is the one who chose Obama. The Republicans have their own supporters as we know.

    According to a study by Princeton University the US is not a democracy, it is an oligarchy. It is run by a few super rich. They also found that only sixty thousand out of a population of hundreds of million have an actual voice in the government.
     
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    Religious faith has never made this country great. What's made it great is the guaranteed, protected, defended freedom to believe as you will and say what you will, and even to do as you will, provided that you do not infringe on the rights and liberties of others. That has been seriously eroded as power has become increasingly centralised. We have humanity and compassion, but it's also being trampled under the boots of ideology. Justice is being taken from us by those who control the government and the laws they pass. Respect towards others, as humanity and compassion, has is diminished where fear- and ideology-based tribal hatreds are maintained. That fear and hatred is an essential ingredient for leading us down a very dark path as a nation - the kind of path that leads to the next civil war, possibly even the next brutal, murderous governmental regime.
     
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    Obama was "chosen" by the people who live off government programs. There just weren't enough Romney supporters (those that pay for the government) to defeat Obama.
     

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