Allegations does not equate to actual facts. Yes, Doman claimed that 4000 or so was the alleged number. The reality was 784 by the committee. I go with the committee, not wild speculation of a person who is a sore loser.
You rely on an LA Times that is 20 years old and only mentions CLAIMS of voter fraud.. Way to go. FAIL
We did look, there was an investigation, and that investigation did not match the allegations at hand.
Yeah, and as explained, the committee didn't look at the citizenship of all the voters. Doman did. They only compared the voter rolls with the visas from the State Department. That is not wild speculation, that is going into the voter rolls and looking at it person by person.
That is not a failure except on the part of politicians to secure our voting rights for 20 plus years. The democrats are the ones who are suppressing black voters and all voters by allowing illegal votes and cancelling out the valid votes cast by Americans.
Doman did not have access to the database, much less to the names of those registered, as an elected official. That is against the law BTW. He made a claim, the committee looked into it, and discovered that it was 784, not 3000 or 4000. The committee own fact of finding disproves Doman's claim and Doman was acknowledged as a sore loser who could not handle the truth.
I know that I've already told you this, and I won't tell it to you again, but I know for a fact that they only looked into visas from the State Department and compared them to the voter rolls. Only 40% of illegal aliens are visa overstays. that means that there would be at least probably 1,200 more illegal alien votes. But I'm pretty sure he looked at the database which you can obtain from the registrar of voters for a fee.
I know who looked up the information, but the fact remains that Rep Doman did not have the actual access to the database. The Congressional committee did. As a result, only 784, of which 124 were already thrown out, were of those votes of non citizens in which they were not eligible to vote. based on the results of the election to that district and the number of votes to the margin of victory, it was not enough to overturn the results. Thus, the claim that illegal aliens caused him to lose the election was never verified by the committee. As for the 1200, you are making assumptions here. You are literally adding to the number based on an unproven claim that was pulled out in thin air. He could not have looked at the voter's database as an elected official. A representative of the party could, but him. Again, that is against the law under the current rules for these voter registration databases.
I know that if you want to, you can go to the Voter Registrar's office and pay for a database print out of the voter rolls. Who is registered to vote is not private information. You do have to pay a fee, but they will supply you with a list of voters and their political party, and their addresses.
Apparently, you can't comprehend/understand that 'non-citizens' ARE Illegal Immigrants, and that they are NOT citizens. First: I didn't post the data. Second: that data, is not skewed...and including households where there is at least one USC and one Illegal immigrant IS irrelevant to this issue. "Generally, illegals cannot obtain or receive welfare benefits except for specific cases." Wrong, Illegals SHOULDN'T be able to receive welfare benefits, etc. BUT the majority of them lie their asses off and DO collect many kinds of benefits, and this has been going on for years, in many states.....see Nevada, California, etc. You said earlier that these Agencies were NOT funded, NOW you say they're underfunded...which is it? P.S. Parents are the Guardians of their children, NOT the other way around. What the Feds SHOULD be doing: IF the Parents of a child are Illegal, and they're deported, the child MUST go with them, regardless of that child's Citizenship. Illegals are given 'Non-Resident Driver's Permits' here in NV....but this, (and being ineligible) does not prevent them from voting illegally. Illegals are NOT citizens of their respective states, they ARE Citizens of their Country of origin. They shouldn't have the right to work anywhere in the US, but since they do work, they should have to pay their Taxes, just like everyone else. When it's voting in a Presidential Election and/or Primary it becomes a Federal issue, in that our President will be chosen.
That would be up to the states. Not that conservatives care about the Constitution or federalism when it doesn't fit their xenophobic agenda. Oh right, I forgot. We get our rights from government. Tell me again how you are different from a left progressive?
Actually, it would be up to the Federal Govt. The Declaration Of Independence clearly states the rights LEGAL US Citizens have...ILLEGAL Immigrants should NOT have these rights. (Call me whatever you like, my initial statement stands.)
Didn't Bush and daddy realize that illegals would eventually get to vote (one way or the other) and that they would vote Democrat? Was that too complex or farsighted for them to figure out or did they just not care about the political future of this nation enough to make illegal immigration a major issue?
I wasn't aware that the DoI was a legal document. Nor does it say anything about US Citizens. When it was written, there was no "United States." Maybe you are thinking of the Constitution, if you are thinking at all. The Constitution makes no mention of citizens only having rights, either.
Apparently, you cannot comprehend that in status (legal) aliens and US Nationals are also in the category of "non citizens." You are assuming that illegal aliens are the only ones in the non citizen category. Let's look at the data, shall we. If we know that the number of the numerator is held constant, but reduce the number that is the denominator, then the percentage would be artificially higher based on the methodology. This is how most of the CIS data, and similar immigration restrictionist sites, conduct those studies. For example, if we take the total number of persons who are illegal who actually receive welfare and divide that by the total population, the noncompliance rate would be very low. However, if the data uses households where at least one member is an illegal alien in that household and in that household at least one person receives welfare, the percentage would be much higher than the population percentage. And given that households are dynamic, which means that households can be multigenerational, various living arrangements, and other complexities in the house, that the number of households casts a much wider net than that of a population. In any analysis, one does conclude that the numbers are skewed because it is alluded that an illegal is receiving welfare when the reality that in many cases that it is the US citizen child receiving welfare. there are very few exceptions when an illegal can receive welfare. One is when the illegal alien is a victim of a sex crime or is a victim of domestic abuse. While their case is being processed, then the illegal alien may receive benefits up to 150 days. In other cases, it is with medical emergencies and that Medicaid is used to pay for some of the hospital bill. Those are the exceptions I know of and they are not an everyday occurrence. I said the agencies were not fully funded. You responded that they were. I responded back and gave examples, instances, cases where the lack of funding is actually hurting the agency to perform its duties. Deporting US citizens to foreign countries when they are young and not citizens of the parent host country is never a good thing to do not matter what the argument. This is why illegal immigration is not as simple as some want to claim it is. This is especially true when there are unaccompanied minors who come into the country without authorization. We have laws that prevent the deportation of minor children to other countries unless there is a responsible parent or relative or adult to take care of them. In many cases, they are simply deported and they simply return back to the US because they have no where else to go.
Despite your little smoke-screen, MANY Illegals defraud the Welfare system every day. Parents are the guardians of their children-NOT the other way around. A child's Citizenship IS irrelevant when their parents' ARE Illegals, and these parents are deported. IOW, the child MUST go with their parents, regardless. An 'unaccompanied minor' IS still an Illegal Immigrant....and obviously, these minors were staying with someone in their Country of origin before they left. We also have Laws that state it's ILLEGAL to enter this country without permission, proper paperwork, etc. that are NOT enforced.
