Keep calm, Trump is not responsible for this.......

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  1. Sane Centrist

    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    Here's what I predict.......................and I'm quite sane by the way.

    The gloves will completely come off amongst the people in this country that hate Mexicans & Muslims and they will feel as though they have a leader who is morally aligned with them.

    What we're seeing now (in the preliminaries) is nothing, what we're seeing at these Trump rallies is nothing, stories like the one I posted tonight will be common place, and these Mexicans & Muslims that have mostly stayed away from retaliating back & being silent, will be silent no more. (people can only be pushed so far)

    What we all saw in Chicago is just the start, and what will Donald be saying then?

    Will he still pay for all of the legal fees for dozens or hundreds or thousands of people that may take to the streets to exact some justice for themselves?

    Maybe it is all a bit extreme, and it's definitely not something I want to see, but Trump has gone past amusing, past funny, into scary, and I am seriously concerned as to the outcomes of all of this should he win.
     
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    1."Illegals" are criminals? If I remember correctly, "illegals" are here in the first place because of (1) free trade agreements like NAFTA, which conservatives supported and (2) the illegal coups and regimes that conservatives like Reagan and his cohorts sponsored in places like Nicaragua. This begs the question as to what is more criminal: Reagan's support of military dictators and violent terrorist fundamentalists, or emigrating into a country illegally because said policies have reduced your country to an impoverished third-world gangster state.

    2.I hope you are aware that internal white supremacist terrorist groups are by far the greatest threat to the United States and its citizens. Incidentally, Trump has gotten the endorsement of those terrorists. This is just a theory of mine, but I think being the candidate of skinheads greatly increases the likelihood of there being violence at rallies.
     
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    You call what this P.O.S did to these kids shutting down free speech, I mean, I'm just curious.......
     
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    1. What's interesting here is that these statements apply best to the white thugs who attend Trump rallies. After all, they have no real interest in actual politics besides reality-show style neo-fascism. They also don't understand the basic rights of other people (e.g. the right no to be punched or beaten up because you are practicing civil disobedience or protesting). And we've seen what happens when black protesters show up at Trump rallies: They get physically and verbally assaulted.

    2. Nothing like some good old-fashioned dog-whistling about black "thugs" committing crimes against white people. Sounds a lot like the ideology Jim Crow era south. Back then, they were real concerned with "black thugs". And you can bet that they really dealt with them effectively too. Nope, they sure weren't politically correct about it.

    3. You do know that white people commit crimes too, right? The difference is, the police aren't out to specifically nail white people for being, as you put it "thugs". No, that special designation they reserve for blacks.
     
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    Fair enough Sane Centrist.

    I just think that for one thing you are vastly overestimating the amount of hateful, racist, Trump supporters. Sure they are out there but that is true for any candidate on either side of the isle.

    I am not a Trump supporter. I think that illegal immigrants, no matter there nationality, broke the law and should be punished not rewarded for it. I think that the vast majority of terrorists are Muslim so common sense dictates that Muslims that want to come to the U.S. should be more heavily scrutinized before allowing them in.

    I do not see how those positions make me hateful of illegal aliens or Muslims. I don't hate anyone or any group.

    I think all this Trump and his supporters being racist rhetoric is a ploy put forth to detract from Trump's support out of fear of losing control by the left and right .

    What is so funny is I really do not like Trump at all. I find him abrasive and annoying. I also find it hilarious that so many people are terrified of him.

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    Your whole post is racist.
     
  6. Sane Centrist

    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    Fallen, people like you and I and many others in this forum, and in the world are immune, and would be immune to positive or negative rhetoric that does affect certain people.

    Understood, and fair enough................

    Here's the problem, there are many weak minded individuals who feed off of conspiracy theories or urban legends that spread like wildfire.

    I don't understand what is so hard to just accept the fact that there are many out there that would go to a political rally (already angry about something) and then become more worked up after hearing their candidate rail on & on about the same things with the same passion.

    Look at the legions of people that follow both Fox & MSNBC, and they each swear by their TV personalities that gives them their daily political news.

    It doesn't mater whether it's accurate of not, because dammit they believe it to be true beyond everything else, and facts be dammed, their riding that pony until the end.

    The best example that I always like to bring up when discussing these maters is the time when Glenn Beck actually came out, and admitted that most of the things he said & did on his TV show hurt the country.

    Glenn realized that many people clung onto his every word, and that as a result, a lot of damage was done because Glenn talked a lot of crazy chit that riled people up and 99.9% of it was absolute nonsense.

    Responsible people in power know the consequences of their actions, and their words so they choose them very carefully. You may not like all of that political correctness but that's what keeps the masses in check.

    Donald prides himself on just letting it all fly.......................

    Well, look at where we are as a result of constantly letting it all fly.

    I can't possibly make this any clearer than that.
     
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    Your claims are ludicrous.

    Illegal immigrants are criminals. Plain and simple. To say other wise is dishonest. Keyword: ILLEGAL

    White supremacist scum, terrible as they are, are nowhere near being the greatest threat to the U.S.

    Do you have any information that supports this claim or is it just more hysteria from the left?
     
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    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    Those few sentences that you have written, I have written no less than a few thousand times, and I'm really not exaggerating.

    You are.....................spot on............................100% correct................................

    And if I could like this post a million times I would.

    But here's the deal, it has too much common sense in it so it won't get much traction in here, but thanks.................

    Seriously.....................thanks......:thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    Just attend a Trump rally, and then get back to me..............

    And I'm really not trying to be flippant or blow you off here, go see for yourself.
     
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    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    You mean like these black thugs in these videos.......

    [video=youtube;zyYjUvXzeBQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyYjUvXzeBQ[/video]

    [video=youtube;kF810x88YS0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF810x88YS0[/video]

    [video=youtube;-s2dm2AuUr0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s2dm2AuUr0[/video]

    [video=youtube;fL6n2gKNosk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL6n2gKNosk[/video]

    [video=youtube;ZISxk0x6kL0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZISxk0x6kL0[/video]

    Yeah........I see what you mean, accept, they all LOOK LIKE WHITE GUYS BEATING UP ON PEOPLE OF COLOR!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    I would never say that all of Donald's supporters are filled with hate or are racist's...............no way.

    What I'm saying is that Donald is a very divisive, toxic character, and somebody, somewhere , soon is going to get hurt really badly because of it.

    That's pretty clear cut if you ask me.
     
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    1. Great. The only problem is that you haven't even tried to offer any evidence as to why.

    2. I see you didn't read anything I wrote. My point was that this conservative talking point about "illegals" is completely disingenuous. Conservatives were the ones who took illegal actions in the first place that created the so-called "illegals". In other words, all this dog-whistling about "illegals" is nothing but a desperate attempt to cover up the horrible outcomes of illegal and corrupt conservative policies. So, on the contrary, what's truly dishonest is to claim that it's "plain and simple" that "illegals" are criminals. Reagan and his buddies are and were criminals. Plain and simple. Keyword: IRAN-CONTRA.

    3. Here's some information about it:
    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/white-americans-are-biggest-terror-threat-u-s-study-n380931
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...r-threat-in-the-us-report-finds-10342987.html

    4. I'm glad that you hate white supremacists. I take it you won't be voting for the party that relies on white supremacists as a major voting block, then. After, all, the founder of the modern Republican party, Reagan, was enthusiastically endorsed by the KKK in 1984.

    5. I think the lesson we gain from all this is that all this nonsense about the "Muslim threat" can pretty much be summed up as "just more hysteria from the right."
     
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    The bottom line. All those protestors supposedly beaten at Trump's rallies have no business being there. They are deliberately provoking Trump supports, getting into their faces, showing them two fingers, gesticulating in vulgar manner....etc...etc....You are asking for trouble.

    Judging by appearance anti-Trump base consists of militant atheists, anarchists, junkies, illegal immigrants, shady characters most likely involved in street crime, terminally unemployable youth (happy to be on welfare and have few spliffs a day on state) etc…etc… I see quite few deluded people supposedly on the left actually being proud and supportive of those low life people. Do you honestly believe that those lost souls and losers can change America for better?

    The person who's divided the USA across racial lines is the current U.S president. The person who happily promoted violence during his campaign to become a president.

    “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”
    Barack Obama

    It appears that many Americans took his words literally and as a result of Obama’s words many innocent Americans died.

    A real racist and nation divider is Obama. Not Donald.

    Reminder as Ferguson Tension Grows: Obama Marched With The Black Panthers
    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...bama-marched-with-the-black-panthers-n1926857
     
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    1. Here comes the reverse racism meme!
    2.You know, despite the fact that conservatives always complain about people "pulling the race card", they sure do complain about racism against whites.
    3. Reverse racism doesn't exist, just so you know. I can be xenophobic towards white people, but not racism to them, because racism is tightly linked to the legacy of various forms of colonialism. There are of course some exceptions, such as the British-Irish relationship, the plight of Jewish people and eastern Europeans, etc. But if we're talking about white Americans? No, I can't really be properly "racist " towards them.
    4.Context. If you thought my post was racist, you should've seen the post I was responding to, with its endless discussion of "black thugs" attacking white women.
    5. If you think racism is me attacking white supremacist neo-fascist thugs, then the term doesn't mean much. Unfortunately, you can't just use terms however you like.
    6. Conservatives making accusations of racism is so ironic it's comical. Republicans have relied on racist dog-whistling to justify virtually all their insane policies. With the rise of Trump, their implicit racism is being made explicit. Hence why white neo-fascist thugs are flocking to him.
     
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    Trump isn't responsible for this. I don't see masses of Trump supporters issuing beatings around the country. Unfortunately, racists and idiots do get to vote too. Of course
     
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    IMHO I think that's the result of sore losers. The Republicans didn't burn down cities and assault women when Obama got elected. Heck, Trump isn't even elected yet and the liberals are already prepared for violence. The obvious problem is the left wing and their bigoted rioters. When Trump wins the election, he'll make sure all of the terrorists are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
     
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    The liberals and their militant associates are panicking. The alarm bells are ringing all over the USA. You'd better be ready. Violence in the name of democracy is justified in the liberal world. Even if that means shutting down the democratic process.

    Top liberal leaders call for 'massive' anti-Trump campaign
    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/...s-call-for-massive-anti-trump-campaign-220760

     
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    Yes it's getting very real. Liberals are prepared for domestic terrorism in the name of a presidential candidate. Good thing we're armed in my home. Don't want any racist liberal rioters coming in and assaulting my family.
     
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    Illegals are called Illegals because they are in the country ILLEGALLY.

    So, yes, all of them are breaking the law by being here ILLEGALLY, and are thus criminals

    Prove to me that white supremacistsand are a greater threat.
     
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    depends on your definition of threat and his.

    I'm sure, driving down wages isn't a threat in his eyes.

    lynchings are


    Although both are threats,..... of different kinds.


    However, with that said, I don't see blacks getting lynched anymore... just blacks escalating legal detentions by police to the point they get shot sometimes. That's not the same thing.

    I'm sure he's not interested in the threat to the national economy... because Bernie is just going to give him everything he needs for free anyways.
     
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    You have some serious issues.

    If you can't see that you are racist against whites I don't know what to tell you. Substitute "black" for " white" in your post and people would be whining about whitey hating black people.

    Your " when I do it it is ok because only white people can be racist" excuse is disturbing.

    Are you a member of BLM and/or The New Black Panthers?

    You sure sound like them.
     
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    If you are going to go on about their criminal gang activity, I would like to point you this this


    The Federal Bureau of Investigation website in 2014 stated that there were some 33,000 gangs in the United States which they classified as street gangs, motorcycle gangs or prison gangs.[4] Notable criminal gangs include:

    List Edit

    Almighty Black P. Stone Nation
    Almighty Vice Lord Nation
    Four Corner Hustlers
    Black Disciples
    Black Guerilla Family
    Black Mafia Family
    Bloods
    Black P. Stones (Jungles)
    Bounty Hunter Bloods
    Double II Set
    Nine Trey Gangsters
    Pirus
    Sex Money Murda
    United Blood Nation
    Crips
    East Nashville Crips
    Du Roc Crips
    Grape Street Watts Crips
    Rollin' 30s Harlem Crips
    Rollin 60's Neighborhood Crips
    Venice Shoreline Crips
    D.C. Blacks
    Gangster Disciples
    OutLaw Gangster Disciples
    Hidden Valley Kings
    KUMI 415
    Mickey Cobras
    People Nation
    Philadelphia Black Mafia
    Zoe Pound Gang
    Asian Boyz,
    Bahala Na Gang,
    Bamboo Union,
    Big Circle,
    Black Dragons,
    Born to Kill (gang),
    Flying Dragons,
    Four Seas Gang,
    Fullerton Boys,
    Ghost Shadows,
    Indian Mafia,
    Jackson Street Boys,
    Kkangpae,
    King Cobras,
    Menace of Destruction,
    On Leong Chinese Merchants Association,
    Satanas (gang),
    Snakeheads,
    Sun Yee On,
    Triad,
    Yakuza,
    Wah Ching,
    Wah Kee,
    Wo Hop To,
    Wo Shing Wo,
    Yamaguchi-gumi,
    Yo(*)(*)(*)(*)omi Group,
    Tiny Rascal gang,
    14K,
    Albanian Mafia
    Albanian Boys gang
    Rudaj Organization
    Irish Mob
    K&A Gang
    Westies
    Winter Hill Gang
    116th Street Crew
    American Mafia
    Bonanno crime family
    Bufalino crime family
    Buffalo crime family
    Chicago Outfit
    Cleveland crime family
    Colombo crime family
    DeCavalcante crime family
    Detroit Partnership
    Gambino crime family
    New Orleans crime family
    Trafficante crime family
    Los Angeles crime family
    The Jersey Crew
    18th Street gang
    Almighty Saints
    Association Ñeta
    Barrio Azteca
    Cali Cartel
    Dominicans Don't Play
    Fresno Bulldogs
    Ghetto Brothers
    Gulf Cartel
    Jheri Curls
    Juárez Cartel
    La Raza Nation
    Latin Eagles
    Latin Kings
    Los Zetas )
    Mara Salvatrucha
    Maniac Latin Disciples
    Medellín Cartel
    Mexican Mafia
    MS-13
    Ñetas
    Norteños
    Nuestra Familia
    Playboyz
    Puro Tango Blast
    Sinaloa Cartel
    Spanish Gangster Disciples
    Sureños
    38th Street gang
    The Avenues
    Clanton 14
    Culver City Boys 13
    El Monte Flores 13
    Logan Heights Gang
    Tooner Ville Rifa 13
    Varrio Nuevo Estrada
    Santa Monica 13
    Tijuana Cartel
    Trinitarios
    Marielitos
    Armenian Power
    Assyrian/Chaldean Mafia
    Israeli mafia
    Jewish Mafia
    TAP Boyz
    Indian Posse
    Native Mob
    211 Crew
    Aryan Brotherhood
    Aryan Circle
    Asian Boyz
    European Kindred
    Public Enemy No. 1
    Dead Man Inc.
    Black Guerrilla Family
    Bloods
    Crips
    D.C. Blacks
    KUMI 415
    Folk Nation
    People Nation
    Mara Salvatrucha
    Mexican Mafia
    Mexikanemi
    Netas
    Nuestra Familia
    Puro Tango Blast
    Texas Syndicate
    Trinitario
    United Blood Nation
    Wah Ching
    Zoe Pound Gang
    Russian Mafia
    Solntsevskaya Bratva
    Brothers' Circle
    Polish mob
    American Front,
    Aryan Brotherhood
    Aryan Brotherhood of Texas
    Aryan Circle
    Aryan Nation
    Aryan Republican Army
    Combat 18
    European Kindred
    Hammerskins
    Keystone State Skinheads
    Ku Klux Klan
    Nazi Lowriders
    Simon City Royals
    Volksfront
    White Aryan Resistance
    White power skinhead
    211 Crew
    Dead Man Inc.
    Dixie mafia
    Juggalo
    South Side Popes


    Non white supremacist gangs are more numerous and their criminal activities are just as bad or worse as any white supremacist related gang.

    How many people have died during gang related violence that the the minority groups seem to sominate.


    Don't use actions of some white supremacist gang member. If we're talking about murder, right now, the minorities have supremacist beat.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am certainly not liberal...but, this is even worse IMHO, and we have created this monster. It is high time we admitted our mistakes and truly allowed our country to be great. Trump is making the United States ungreat so is little slogan makes sense.
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    He wasn't the one who wrote up the laws and legislature. Nor was he the one who created and funded terror groups.

    That would be the neocons who you will be voting for.

    And as far as sanders. He is a borderline neocon and a borderline communist. That might be even worse.

    A vote not for Trump is a vote for neocons. Don't vote for neocons, vote for Trump.
     
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    He should look up the definition of racism and see if that definition excludes any racial groups.
     

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