WISE Founder Teaches Muslim Women Self Defense To Protect Against Hate Crimes

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  1. Sane Centrist

    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    Well I won't bother to keep re-posting all of the links with all of the statistics that definitely show spikes & rises in attacks - specifically against Muslim women not only in this country, but all over the world in the last year or so. (I've posted them a million times to no avail)

    All you have to do is type in "Muslims hate crimes in 2015", and you'd be inundated with information.

    What I don't understand is the overwhelming pushback on these real events, and on hard evidence & facts.

    Most of the replies in here are filled with comments saying that the videos are fake, that the stories are fake, that Muslim men are really beating them up, not strangers, false flags, etc. etc. etc.

    The only time people live in this type of denial is when they either feel shame or embarrassment.

    It's so much easier to just say something like:

    "wow, this is a horrible situation, and I'm sorry to see so many innocent people being assaulted because of what others have done"

    But I guess that's just too damn hard to do............
     
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    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    I got the vibe from Merwen that he was doing his typical thing that he always does, which is to grab at any straw he can find in his ever desperate attempts to find cracks or *****s in the amor.

    Anytime I hit him with a well laid out post with all of my arguments & points laid out in a methodical framework backed up with links & videos, he comes back with some eloquent one liner that wreaks of disdain, arrogance, and sarcasm.

    He cleverly tries to masquerade his contempt as thoughtful intellect, but it's easy to see through his thin veil of BS.

    That's what he did here at my obvious misspelling of a word. It was weak, and it was pathetic.

    I'm not mad about it, but he wasn't trying to turn it into a light hearted moment, and I felt like you jumped on it as well just to be piling on.

    If you didn't mean it in a mean spirited way, cool, if there was no malice in your words.....cool, no harm, no foul.
     
  3. Genius

    Genius Active Member

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    That's a shame.
     
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    When in Rome, yada yada yada.

    Isn't makeup forbidden by Muslims? The women in the OP are hardly indicative of your typical Muslim woman. I mean, really, if they're going to wear the garb, shouldn't they be abiding by all the Muslim rules; i.e., no makeup, not going out in public with a male escort, etc.
     
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    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    Knockout Game.............Knockout Game....

    That 16 year old girl that got knocked down to the ground that lost a couple of teeth, and had the front of her face blasted into the ground wound up there........because of..............the Knockout Game???

    The woman in Applebee's that got the bottom of her lip damn near ripped of from somebody smashing a beer mug in her face happened because of........................the Knockout Game???

    The three young Muslim girls on the Jersey Path train that were spit on, and called dirty c*nts, and dirty Muslims happened, because of...............the Knockout Game???

    Dutch...............Seek Help.:truce:
     
  6. Genius

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    Point your vitriol towards the ones who are mostly at fault...male Muslims.
     
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    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    I see your points here but I have a simple answer for you with this analogy.

    The terrorist attacks (that were despicable) was the fire that was already raging..................

    Trump came along just as the fire was going out, opened up a fire hose filled with gas..................and let her rip.

    Is that clear enough for you?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Well aware of it, and it's just as disgusting.

    All hatred is disgusting my friend.
     
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    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    Really..............

    So I guess you skipped over this first sentence in that first, original post that started this thread?

    "That's right, although this video below is from London, "this", and similar things like it is happening so much in "our" country, that these women now have to take self defense classes where in the past I'm sure it was the furthest thing from their minds."

    Keep trying Merwen...............your almost there.....................I promise, just keep peddling...........
     
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    I don't know, take it off and lets see.
     
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    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    Anybody who really wants an to have an honest conversation about all of this should read the links you've provided here.

    Sadly I don't think it will happen because this paragraph from on of these article speaks directly to how a lot of the people in here really feel.

    That paragraph would be this:

    “I don’t believe in apologizing or condemning the actions of people who are, frankly, pieces of sh*t who happen to call themselves Muslims."
     
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    Revealing.........

    Dixon76710 is focused on just one aspect of the story, and only one aspect of the dozens of posts I've offered in this thread filled with dozens of stories of assaults, stats, and much more.

    Actually it's not revealing at all............it's just Dixon being Dixon.
     
  12. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WTF?

    The "knockout game" is one of the many names given by the American news media to assaults in which one or more assailants attempt to "knock out" an unsuspecting victim. This is often done with a single sucker punch for the amusement of the attackers and their accomplices.[1] Other names given to assaults of this type include "knockout", "knockout king", "point 'em out, knock 'em out", "bomb",[2][3] and "polar-bearing" or "polar-bear hunting" (allegedly called such when the victim is white).[4][5][6]

    Serious injuries and even deaths have been attributed to the "knockout game". Some news sources report that there was an escalation of such attacks in late 2013, and, in some cases, the attacker was charged with a hate crime. Some politicians have been seeking legislation against it.[4][7][8] Other media analysts have cast doubt on the reportedly widespread nature of the game and have labeled the trend, although not the attacks themselves, a myth.[9][10][11][12] Liberal analysts claim that conservatives falsely promote a view that the "knockout game" trend is real, which liberals claim has not been empirically established.[13][14] Conservative analysts claim that the liberal media refuses to report this trend for political reasons, i.e. due to the game's racial implications.[15][16][17]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knockout_game

    WTF does knockout game has to do with m and my mental health? Are you sure it is me who needs help? Hm? :wall:
     
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    The religion is set up so that the spread and domination happens almost automatically without the *active* involvement of most. -repeat-

    The religion is set up so that the spread and domination happens almost automatically without the *active* involvement of most. -repeat-

    The religion is set up so that the spread and domination happens almost automatically without the *active* involvement of most. -repeat-

    The religion is set up so that the spread and domination happens almost automatically without the *active* involvement of most. -repeat-

    The religion is set up so that the spread and domination happens almost automatically without the *active* involvement of most. -repeat-

    The religion is set up so that the spread and domination happens almost automatically without the *active* involvement of most. -repeat-

    The religion is set up so that the spread and domination happens almost automatically without the *active* involvement of most. -repeat-

    The religion is set up so that the spread and domination happens almost automatically without the *active* involvement of most. -repeat-

    There, now that I've posted you "standard" answer for everything that will ever come up regarding Muslims, you don't have to.......
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You need a rest laddie... Weekend off, perhaps? :roflol:
     
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    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    Yes it is, and thank you for saying so...........

    Your humanity is obviously in check, others in here..................not so much.
     
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    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    Yes, there is a problem with domestic violence & abuse in areas of the Middle East, and very little to none in others.

    But I digress.....let's get back to the issue here at hand, here at home...........

    The women in this story that are going to self defense classes are not going to protect themselves from their husbands.

    The women in the videos & stories that were assaulted, spat on, and verbally abused were not abused by their husbands.

    You know who they were abused by......???

    Piece's of chit that hate Muslims so much that they make extremely ignorant comments like:

    "Point your vitriol towards the ones who are mostly at fault...male Muslims."
     
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    You've suggested that I should move somewhere else. To judge by your obvious hatred of England, and indifference to its future, I suggest you do - how about Poland?
     
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    I love being quoted!:clapping:
     
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    Like I've said - if someone is stupid enough to ask for trouble, especially for something as small-minded and unnecessary as making a religious statement in public, then they deserve to get it. We're all responsible for our actions, and that also applies to dressing provocatively in western dress. This is an imperfect world, and 'do your own thing' idealists would do well to contemplate the adage 'If you don't want to get burnt don't play with fire'. Apart from feeling bitterly resentful of being made to feel part of a minority in my own country, I have no problem with how anyone dresses.The sad fact is that we're all victims of one thing or another, as is exemplified in my recent post in the Pets forum: I wish that I could be free to do what I want to do, just by something as simple as altering my dress code!
     
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    Sorry SC but that is so convoluted and (as you say yourself) 'a lot' that I'm not willing to spend the requisite amount of time needed to reply to it in full, and there's no point in replying to it in part.
     
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    On the contrary. Sane Centrist offered a video of an attack against a Muslim girl/young woman in the UK. The rhetoric then was that this had nothing to do with Muslim hatred and was rather to do with a game you people play in the United States where you apparently like to knock people out and sometimes kill them. The argument there was that it was nothing to do with her being a Muslim. That people in the United States do not mind who they attack with this game of knocking people out and injuring/killing them.

    I was simply saying that regardless of this particular incident attacks on young Muslim women by young white Males are the most common in the UK. Attacking women who can be seen to be Muslim by their dress/headscarves is the most common attack on Muslims in the UK. In that respect the attack on this 16 year old Muslim girl fitted the norm but they were however according to the article I gave more likely to be attacked by young white males then anyone else. The figures were apparently given by Tell MAMA so regardless of whether the man in the video was copying you in the US and playing what you call a 'game' of knocking people out, he nonetheless chose the most common victim of the brave Muslim haters, that is a young Muslim woman. Sane took this example and illustrated how it was not just in the UK that 'brave' Muslim haters like to attack Muslim women but that the same was happening in the US which had resulted in them taking to self defence classes to protect themselves from cowardly American bullies. That was with connection with the first article.

    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/paris-atta...-british-muslims-soar-by-300-one-week-1530048

    The second article I gave however dealt just with the US. This article illustrates the dangerous position the US now has towards Muslims and mentions some of the regular memes parroted by Muslim haters on this site as well as making it clear that Muslims in the US are the 'other'.
    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/paris-attacks-muslims-america-trump/417069/

    This article shows how you stereotype all American Muslims into the worst you can find and frankly how this is based on ignorance as well as hate.

    The situation of Muslims in the US bears a close relationship with that of Jews in Germany in the 1930's. I further said that research is suggesting that it is no longer a question of if there is going to be mass violence against Muslims in the United States but when.

    I see the haters of Muslims at the moment as having the same mentality to those who supported how Jews in Europe were treated in the 30's and it is looking increasingly likely that they are going to be treated in a similar way. The future will likely look upon them with the same contempt as we currently look upon the Nazis.
     
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    If you feel intimidated or bullied by a 16 year-old girl wearing a headscarf I suggest you either grow a pair or buy yourself a girl-proof bunker. As always perception is subjective.
     
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    Shamelessly blaming the victim is always good recourse when you can't accept that anti-Muslim rhetoric leads to neo-fascist violence against innocents.
     
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    I read "that's a shame" as sarcasm. Of course I could be wrong.
     

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