Evolution thread.

I know they use an enzyme to cut the chain and insert genes. I was referring to nature.

 

Thus far, all discovered life on Earth utilizes the same chemical combinations to produce the DNA for life.

 

How can you deny the obvious?

 

So...all of the letters are there even in what are considered simple organisms and the only difference is in the spelling.

 

Pretty much...

Some of what we consider "Simple" organisms hove far more letters in their books than we do.

https://www.quora.com/Which-animal-has-the-longest-genomic-DNA

 

That's how he get's his kicks.

But whatever he thinks the fact is a Cellular Mutation is in effect an addition or change of the Genome and the DNA.

It is caused via Chemical Reaction and thus new information is formed via mutation within the cellular genome.

AA

 

That refutes the main arguments of YEC.

 

...uh...so does literally EVERYTHING.

 

As far as GATCA....or... "GATTACA." is composed entirely of the letters used to label the nucleotide bases of DNA. The four nitrogen bases of DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) are adenine, thymine, cytosine, and guanine.these letters represent.

Thus only those letters are used but the atoms in the Genome are either added to or rearranged when you have Mutation.

AA

 

No letters are added. It is the spelling that changes. The more complex an organism seems to be the less capacity for variation. Although the variations are still many.

 

Meaning?

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You're still failing middle school biology.

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How?

 

Actually the more you study it the more separate we are to apes. In fact it is now said that we share only 96%. Another thing to consider is that we are 70% similar to sunflowers and yet we are not related.

 

Yes, the alphabet stays the same, and we notice in written language that the fact of a single alphabet has no influence at all on the complexity or extent of what may be expressed.

We describe our new discoveries such as the Higgs boson and the stupendous complexities of the world's largest machine and the processes of analyzing the resultant information in these experiments using essentially the same alphabet as the one that began replacing the previous alphabet in the 7th century. And, at that time science wasn't even progressing where our alphabet was being used - progress in science was mostly in the Middle East and China.

imho, suggesting that our genetic alphabet, capable of describing life itself, is a limiting factor in complexity would require some evidence.

 

A mutation is a change in information.

And, there is no mechanism whereby that change could be limited only to subtraction of information.

 

Every argument I have heard suggest we ARE related to sunflowers.

While it IS possible that two independent cases of abiogenesis occurred on this planet, that explanation seems FAR less likely than the possibility of early differentiation between plants and animals taking place incrementally over a period of time.

Plus, if one believes that abiogenesis occurred once for plants and once for animals your 70% number would seem to be difficult to explain. After all, why would abiogenesis result in an identical method of representing itself for duplication??? Surely the result would be that two incomparable methods would occur. Or, different bases would be used. Or, ??? The 70% wouldn't even START do describe the difference, as the whole method of description would likely be incompatible.

 

I'm not so sure about us sharing 70% of our DNA with sunflowers, nor do I care. The fact is that evolution is the only theory that fits the facts. There's no evidence to suggest that the Israelite god Yahweh spit into some mud and made clay people and magically wished for animals and plants to appear.

If your deity gave you reason only to force you to believe unreasonable nonsense, then your deity, if it existed, would be considered an a**hole. It's absurd to think that scientists are consipiring against the Bible and all the many other scientifically inaccurate religious texts around the globe.

 

Evolution and intervention are two very different things. The Facts support intervention not evolution. They are spending a hell of alot of money on getting into space and looking for ...other intelligent life. Why?? because that's where the evidence leads them. Evolution is a lie. There is a mountain of proof that it is a lie. Our very chromosomes prove evolution is a lie and that's backed by science.....Evolution does not fit our species. We are nothing like apes...apples and oranges both come from tree's but...apples can not become oranges...sorry...Wake up.

 

If evolution is a lie how you came to exist? It is God who made men, women and the rest of creatures as they are. Did beings not change over millenniums? You want to prove God created living beings? Is what is written in the Bible a fact?

 

Argumentum ad ignorantiam
Evolution is supported by abundant evidence from many different fields of scientific investigation.

 

Science does not say that we evolved from apes.
Millions of years ago humans shared a common ancestor with modern African apes.
The species diverged into two separate lineages. One of these lineages ultimately evolved into gorillas and chimps, and the other evolved into early human ancestors called hominids.

 

There is no evidence for "intervention."

 

Humans have 2 pairs of fused chromosomes. No other living creature on this earth has this. Please explain how evolution or nature can fuse chromosomes. The only place this is observed outside our species is in a lab when scientists do it.

We have 4000+ defects in our DNA. No other living thing on this earth has this mess. Why?? because nature isnt so careless. Something or soemone just cut and spliced our DNA without to much care.

The proof shows that life disappears then reappears VERY quickly, as thou we are being terra formed. Then life forms that can live in the new environment are introduced.BANG just like that. Do some REAL research before you claim there is no proof. An idiot can see evolution is a lie.

 

We are nothing like Hominids. For one, our feet are completely different to theirs. So much so that it would take a VERY long time just to evolve to that point..let alone a totally different species in EVERY way. We are totally different, there isnt enough time or evidence of evolutionary steps for the complete overhaul..They wont be found because they dont exist. Evolution happens on a micro scale like a change in color, a slight angle change in a beak..there no evidence of marco scale evolution...sorry.

 

I believe we were created by nature like all things. How the seed was planted no one knows, but evidence suggests all life was bought here..the earth is constantly being reseeded with life. Nature is the programmer of life but first it needs the input. There is some fact in the bible as it is a science journal..a record of intervention that effects all living things. Science knows it was intervention. The bible also gives very clear hints to back this up..Look at the stories of creation and think with a scientific mind set..do not take it literally. First man was created from the dust of the earth (as all things). this is step one. Then we have step two " let us go down and make man in our likeness and our image" this strongly suggests that man was already here..in the image of another. This is intervention. These beings are not gods..but scientists. The bible goes on to describe DNA manipulation of all living things..So someone was here doing something ("and they hovered over the waters)..thats a fact, and its not just the bible but every ancient texts speaks of this Look at our time now..what are we doing?? oh snap DNA MANIPULATION!!!!! we are what?? INTERVENING with life forms!!!. But it cant be!! lol. Think about it..we are not well equipt to survive here..we need clothes, we have thin skins, we are burnt by the sun, we are weak, our feet are a design flaw, hominids had better feet, Why would we de-evolve?compared to the other living things on this earth..we dont belong. I think its time to ask smarter questions.

 

And yet the biologists disagree with you.