Texas family: We’re getting death threats for not baking a cake for same-sex ‘marriag

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that's why I instead compare them to over 1300 years of precedent of what Islam is, to see that they are.
     
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    And obviously the vast majority of gay couples are since there have been over 30,000 same sex marriages and 2 lawsuits over cake.
    That means a rate of .006% of all gay wedding ceremonies result in lawsuits over refusal of service.

    There have been far more refusal of service lawsuits brought by heterosexual couples.

    Bottom line - this is a statistical aberration - not the teeth gnashing, end of the world event that some right wing fundamentalists
    try to make it out as.
     
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    There are moderate Muslims that prove you wrong. The majority of Muslims do not agree with ISIS. It wasn't more than 400 years ago so called witches were burned at the stake with people using the bible as their reason. It wasn't more than 50 years ago some were using the bible to justify interracial marriage bans.

    Again, you are proven wrong.
     
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    You really don't have a clue. There is no Federal law on discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation by private employers. Half the states currently have no such laws.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Moderate Muslims prove no such thing.
     
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    Actually, there is. It's called the 14th Amendment, and the courts have backed this up on numerous occasions.
     
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    Of course it does, if the Majority of Islam is violent and ISIS represents it, then the majority would agree with their actions. Most Muslims don't. Thus the majority of Muslims do not follow ISIS.

    You are basically using the logic that because Westboro church says they are Baptists that they are. Simply false.
     
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    As of right now there is no Federal Law (for the country) against discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation. Now, that may be brought up to the SCOTUS or determined at a later date that the 14th applies to it, but right now the only ones protected Federally against sexual orientation discrimination are Federal Workers.
     
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    The 14th Amendment applies to federal and state government...not private entities. Geesh, ever since Obama started pretending to be a Constitutional scholar, every Tom, Dick and Idiocrat has followed suit.
     
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    Yeah we all heard it was IMPOSSIBLE to use the 14th for allowing gay marriage as well.
     
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    He said "The 14th Amendment applies to federal and state government". The state is the one who issues marriage licenses. Private individuals issues wedding cakes.
     
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    i dont know why you would want someone to bake for you who is only forced into doing it.

    ive seen a lot of videos where fast food workers do...... things @_____________@
     
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    You really don't have a clue. he 14th applies to the government.
     
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    Pull your head out of your okole please. You might start with actually reading the 14th Amendment...and if that doesn't give you a clue, then perhaps read some books on the subject.
     
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    Well I guess they aren't very Christian then are they? So them using religion as an excuse was BS from the start.
     
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    Im not using the logic that ISIS says hey are Islamic so they are Islamic. That's the logic YOU assigned to me because you cant deal with my actual logic used.
     
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    Again. Let's be real about this.

    There have been over 30,000 same sex marriages and only 2 lawsuits over wedding cakes, so let's keep this in perspective.
    Obviously the VAST MAJORITY of gay couples are finding either businesses who support gay weddings or businesses
    who aren't using religious arguments to rationalize bigotry.

    People sue over spilt coffee. Children sue parents because they won't buy them a car. There is always a percentage of any social group that are a little wack. Judging an entire social group over the actions of .006% of them is pretty asinine.
     
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    Oh, I think its pretty clear they want the $100,000s of damage awards instead.
     
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    So you are not a true christian you are a pick and choose christian like most when it fits your bigotry or when you need sympathy
     
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    Actually I am an atheist. Just not the typical atheist who believes I can tell a Christian what it is they should believe.
     
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    lol @ atheists trying to define what a true Christian is.
     
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    Doesnt sound like a true christians saying you only believe in some parts of his laws and words and disregard the other parts....kinda sounds like opertuism if you ask me lmao. The hypocracy of the religous right is astounding.
     
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    Wel i will tell them espessially when they try to impose their religous bigotry on others. This has nothing to do with there rights if it did they would demand that woman should marry their rapist and ect. These religous nuts are opening pqndorws box. I hope they do because it will be commical.
     
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    they wanted a wedding cake, the store sells wedding cakes
     

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