The U.S. Government’s Department of Health Finally Admits That Marijuana Kills Cancer

1. 40% have already tried cannabis.
2. The other 60% are unlikely to start using if it's legalized
3. Harm to the user is his business, not that of others - legalization reflects this, not prohibition

 

Only among the young and predisposed to psychiatric issues.

Which some days seems to be almost every teenager.

 

Pot should be legal, no doubt. But, it doesn't cure cancer.

Let's be real.

 

And when the "user" goes psyco and harms others?

 

Lol that's funny. Did you just make that up? Psycho pot heads harming others... that's rich.

 

Adam Lanza....James Holmes and Loughner were all pot smokers....laugh that one off.

 

McDonalds burgers make you fat, give you diabetes and heart diseases, among others, hence increasing insurance. Are you going to crusade against McDonalds or fast food chains any time soon?

 

Then you should arrest that person. I have been using cannabis for years without any sort of symptom like that. Like alcohol. Punish crime, leave the vast, vast majority of those who have no interest in such things alone. Amsterdam was the safest place I've ever been, excepting unrelated terror related stuff.

Most crime related to drug use is a function of the drug war itself. Most drugs come from plants and would be trivially inexpensive to produce in a free market. The reason that drugs cost a lot is prohibition. The government spends a lot on enforcement, which is simply transferred to suppliers at the expense of now-impoverished users.

Of course, just as if I consume a bottle of whiskey and go on a violent rampage I should be held criminally liable, I should be held criminally responsible if I go on a meth-fueled violent rampage.

I have used opiates regularly (not currently) and felt nothing but relaxed and euphoric. Have used amphetamines occasionally (not currently) and it was a revolution for my social anxiety. I simply think I should be left alone. I have never committed any violence or stolen from anybody on drugs. Go after real criminals.

 

Are you saying they did what they did because they got high? Whats next, they listened to rock music and played video games?

99% percent of people who smoke weed don't go on killing rampages. and those who do, it has yet to be proven that they did so because they were under the influence.

 

So what? Chances are they all drank orange juice as well.

Please try harder.

 

Why would they? Big corporate America is the end all be all Grade A Number One Sacred Cow around here.

In other news, the only reason Pot is illegal is because hemp is useful and it's a more efficient painkiller then the frankendrugs big pharma creates to justify their own existence.

If the side effects of pot are limited to the munchies and general sluggishness, that's much better then lifelong opioid addiction, possibly cancer, death and sundry other side effects of big pharma frankendrugs.

Our government restricting pot to the people is actually fuelling the increase in heroin addiction.

They ought to be strung up for treason.

 

Yes, I'm crazy about it.

 

Correct. The 1# gateway drug in the US are painkillers and prescription pills prescribed by non other than doctors.

 

Doctors are to blame -partially.- Big Pharma buys junk science to convince them it's safe to give out opioids.

It's a travesty of inhumane injustice that a locally occurring natural resource is listed as a class I drug, the arbitrary assignment of which has destroyed the lives of countless innocent civilians.

The government is to blame as much as corporate America.

 

And you prove that them smoking pot was linked to their crimes. Go on, we know you can...meanwhile I'll be laughing as you suggested.

 

Agitprop and nonsense. I'm sure they also drank. And some of them read the bible. But let's pin it on a partisan non-issue. The issue here is the denial of commerce and consumption by the government. It's unconstitutional and these pundits know it. Hence why they cling to platitudes and non-arguments when discussing legalizing pot.

 

Lol ... they were left wing nut jobs. Crazy as you get. Pot couldn't even save them. Too many prescriptions I guess.

 

Does that also mean that alcohol, a powerful central nervous system depressant, is the gateway drug for barbiturate use?

 

Zoltan, I will be honest sir/ma'am, prior to me doing an insane amount of research, I'd say everything you just said about Professor Peabody. Now that I have, this is what I'd say adjusting for my knowledge.

The fact is that some people are allergic to cannabis. It is a known fact and some of these symptoms folks are experiencing (IE: Increased heart rate), could be an exact reason for this. So while I don't want the focus to change from the positives this plant can bring, I also don't want to be ignorant of some of the side effects that can come along with utilizing this plant, as intended.

These risks still need to be studied and understood. As I mentioned in my other post, this plant can destroy beta cells in the pancreas. If this is the case, we, as humans using this plant, could be causing ourselves to go further down the path of acquiring diabetes in our lifetime. I'm not saying this is a weak/strong possibility, but if destroying beta cells in the pancreas is a key indicator leading to diabetes, this is something we, as humans, need to study & be made aware of.

With the increased heart rate, maybe there is a reason why the medicine in the plant is doing that, maybe there is some other underlying issue that the plant is trying to fix. I don't know, but however, I don't necessarily think they're derailing the topic. So while smoking it, in it's purest form, could lead to irritation of the lungs/throat, that's when edibles come into play. It's by finding out these various things that are going on that we, as humans, lead ourselves to alternatives. To me, the whole point of this discussion is to bring all parties inclusive into this. If it can help us, as humans, live a longer, more healthier lives, then we, as humans, also need to understand the potential risks and concerns that come along with utilizing this plant, in it's purest form.

 

Steady Pie, not taking away from everything else you stated in your post, but this about sums it up. It's a do no harm, want no harm philosophy, in my opinion. I don't want to hurt you anymore than I want you to hurt me. In which case, I wish to partake in utilizing the medical benefits of cannabis. If you, as a human or citizen of the US, don't want to partake it with me, then DON'T. I'm not asking you to do it anymore than I'm suggesting anyone drink alcohol or smoke tobacco.

I want to do it to better my life. Why is that such a hard concept for folks to grasp? In yet, folks would much rather lock folks up for life, as that's supposed to be the better alternative. You drink responsibly, you smoke responsibly, it's that simple. If you can't, then there are consequences you must pay. I just merely want to better my life. Plain and simple.

 

So now we're, as debaters of this topic, going to lump everyone together? Correlation doesn't equal causation. Just because they used cannabis, doesn't mean that everyone else are going to do the same thing.

Let me ask you a serious question, do you think LSD or cannabis is a rougher drug on the system? The reason I ask is because scientists have discovered that taking LSD actually makes your brain feel more "complete": http://www.techtimes.com/articles/149361/20160412/lsd-makes-the-brain-more-complete-scientists.htm. Explain that one to me as I've never taken LSD before, and probably never will, but I know for a fact that LSD is far more harmful on the system than cannabis. Personal opinion, of course, but I'd like to know your thoughts of this.

 

Here, in the State of Colorado, since September 2012, marijuana is completely legal for both medicinal and recreational purposes. Its sale is quite restricted because few municipalities allow more than a handful of MJ shops to conduct business, and the amount that may be sold at any one time is rather small.

If we had any sense, we'd be selling it by the truckload to anyone who wants to buy it and taxing the hell out of it before it becomes legal for all purposes in all 50 states. But, no, we'd rather tax ourselves to death on other things, like personal property, and let millions of dollars in potential tax revenue go to the various black markets they've gone to for decades. I'm one of the more hated Conservatives who post in this forum, but I'm happy to say that I voted for legalization of MJ in Colorado, and I'd do it again!

Anyway, I'm very glad to hear that MJ is valuable in the fight against cancer. I doubt that smoking it (or anything else) is particularly good for the lungs, but there are other ways to get it into the bloodstream.

 

The correlation is undeniable.

 

There's plenty of evidence.

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There's plenty of evidence.

 

Have you seen your doctor?