Reality check for Trump supporters

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by theferret, Mar 29, 2016.

  1. GeddonM3

    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

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    WHat? that a business man had failed businesses in the past ? so what lol? Want to talk about his successful businesses that are obviously a plenty? Or do you want us to revolve our thoughts around where a proven billionaire has fell short in the past and act like that is all that matters?

    I mean what point are you trying to make?
     
  2. theferret

    theferret Well-Known Member

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    Stop blowing smoke....Trump's bullhorn is that he's such a great business man falls apart under scrutiny...a trust fund kid who has been gaming the system for years, just skirting bankruptcy. Hardly someone you want in charge of the national coffers.

    your insipid stubbornness aside, you can't fault the information I provide.
     
  3. Tosca1

    Tosca1 Well-Known Member

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    Depends on who's doing the scrutinizing.

    Yes he's a great business man. He's still on top, isn't he.....despite numerous bankruptcies.

    So he skirted several bankruptcies.....is that a crime? If a legal system is in place as a safety net for BIG-TIME investors to take the risk of investment - he has every right to use it - whether he used it a hundred or a thousand times - if he's allowed to do it, he can!

    So he's good at "gaming" - I see that as a plus! For a change, perhaps he's the one who'll run loops around the wolves sitting at the UN, instead of the USA being made to look like a fool!

    With the Cuban and Iran deal - aside looking like an ingratiating fool at photo ops sucking up to Castro ......

    .......what did Obama get in return for the USA?
     
  4. GeddonM3

    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

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    Blowing smoke or simply defeating your petty argument?

    To be successful these days it is not uncommon that you need someone to open a door for you, it is very rare that someone simply does everything on their own. Some people have a bigger advantage, some people get in by the skin of their teeth and take a small opportunity and turn it into a fortune. But the fact of the matter is someone opened the door to help continue their path to stardom.

    Failures are going to happen, but the choice then is to give up or come back harder and learn from your mistakes. There are trust fund kids who squandered the money and did nothing and are now broke, and there are people like Trump who made (*)(*)(*)(*) happen. Yeah he had some bumps along the way but now he is on top because he did not stop and did not give up.

    Now let me ask you this and question your all so great intellect, or at least attempt of it. What would you rather have, a guy like Trump who made a bunch of businesses which in turn created jobs for over 20,000 people, or would you rather see him broke and those 20,000 people lose their jobs just so you can feel better about yourself?

    So despite your idiotic ramblings, and even though you don't like Trump a lot of good and alot of families are fed because of his contribution that gave people honest positions in life.

    Now go blow some more smoke up your ass, genius.
     
  5. YouLie

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    I don't know how this qualifies as a current event and survives 12 pages, but I'm no moderator.
     
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    Yes, and Trump is Satan, and even worse - he is from New York City! ;-)
     
  7. buckwalder

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    I'm, new here and I just " liked " your post.

    If that was sarcasm that, was hilarious ! If not, you just got last like. LOL
     
  8. theferret

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    Glad you asked:

    What does the U.S. get out of the Cuba deal?

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/what-does-the-u-s-get-out-of-the-cuba-deal/


    Trump the blowhard wouldn't have gotten this far. Period.
     
  9. theferret

    theferret Well-Known Member

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    the ferret responds: see previous responses. Unlike you, I prefer ALL THE FACTS in order to make a better analysis and summation, as opposed to your generalize, supposition and conjecture laden screeds. Carry on.
     
  10. theferret

    theferret Well-Known Member

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    so if you've got nothing to contribute beside carping that you don't like the OP or the FACT that the Trump supporters are not faring well? Not surprising.
     
  11. GeddonM3

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    What facts, you just decided to blame Trump for something that is not his fault lol. The laws of bankruptcy are written, they are what they are and you can not fault Trump for using them to his advantage just like millions of others have in the past and now. It's part of business an it always will be unless you go in and change the law. Instead of blaming him, why not blame those who create the laws?

    But na, blame Trump for doing things the way the law allowed him too. Maybe if he purposely broke his hard drive then maybe you would like him.

    Oh and speaking about people who make the laws and want to make it harder for those to file for bankruptcy , and those who purposely break their hard drives to hide evidence, shall we talk about Hillary and her democrat horde who tried to make it harder for Americans to wipe out debts via bankruptcy?

    Or shall we stick to trying to blame Trump for everything you feel is wrong?

    you should be about out of smoke now.
     
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    Bottom line: If it's legal, it can be used.

    Just because people are super-rich, does not exclude them from using whatever safety net the system had provided for investors or entrepreneurs. Is the system exactly the same for BIG-TIME INVESTORS and small businesses? I don't know.
    Somehow I think, there's more lure being given to the super-rich for them to take big risks at investing in a country.

    Unless Trump had committed a crime, he operated his business(es) the way he wanted. He does not need yours...or anyone's approval.


    Your problem is with the system. Go vote for someone who'll change it for you.
     
  13. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    Trump won't build a wall; that's the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) that he loves to throw around because he knows there are enough dumb schmucks naive enough to believe it!
     
  14. RichT2705

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    Thanks for confirming Barack Obamas complete total failure. No matter what else...he was going to restore our respect in the world, right libs?



    So....he hasnt even done that apparently. Thanks for the unintentional slip of honesty.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    It began long before Obama. Trust me on this.
     
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    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Im sure, however that doesnt change the narrative he ran on and that we were all fed...sometimes by the Libs outside the USA as well.

    Obama was going to, and was already restoring our respect in the world. LOL...we knew it was propaganda of course, but nice to see it stated plainly from someone outside the US.


    It began before Obama...yet Obama hasnt changed it, despite all the rhetoric we were fed.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    It began with the idiot Bush whom you somehow also managed to elect for two terms. He, almost singlehandedly, destroyed respect for America, her credibility and the trust of the world.
     
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    Noone is debating when "it" started...But we had a guy who was elected to change this.

    We were constantly told how he would change the image...and in fact even many people here said similar as they took another dig at Bush (as you did once again)...if I were to waste the time looking I would not be surprised if you yourself popped up in one of thsoe threads telling us how much more respect we have under Obama.


    You've now confirmed for us what we all knew anyway. Laughing stock of the World= Obama failed.
     
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    Obama's fairly well liked pretty much everywhere except in the dark recesses of the US right wing mind.

    Democratic reality, as practiced by those dark US right wing minds, says it's the minority who are the laughing stock.

    So, guffaw@U.

    Certainly that dark US right wing mind has seen no increase in respect as a result of Obama's presidency.

    Which is good. :-D
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    You know you're right; when Obama took office great things were anticipated. He presented himself as educated, urbane and compassionate, as well as statesmanlike. Sadly it never really came to much in the end. He is still liked and respected outside America.
     
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    Well this might mean something if we didnt have someone from the UK telling us America is the Laughing stock of the world...in 2016....7 years into the Presidency of the man who was going to restore Americas image.

    I guess I liberal from Great Britains opinion is now to be considered something from the Dark US right wing mind?

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    I appreciate your honesty Snake.
     
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    SO you believe that Hillary supports you? Do you really believe that The Clinton Crime Family supports Blacks and the diverse array of freaks and perverts that you are going to be voting with??
    If you don't understand why Trump has filed bankruptcy then you haven't been in business. You have never started a business or built anything. About half of small businesses fail so they have to file for bankruptcy or just walk away. In any case investors loose. Talk to some of the Soros trolls in here. Their grandmothers have invested in a computer and a deck lamp but the trolls are still in the basement of the GM's house pounding the key boards and cursing day and night.

    RIGHT.. Did we see Russian jet buzzing our ships during the Bush administration? Russia waited for 0 before they invaded their neighbors? Libya gave up their nuclear programs to President Bush. Iran kept their heads pretty low while Bush was in office and now their nuclear weapons program is at its highest level according to the man in charge of it.
    Let me ask if you hate for all things American ticked down a peg after 9/11 or your you dancing with you islamo neighbors? The amount of respect for President Bush or this country stopped mattering to me after 9/11 as we went into war mode and the war isn't over.

    Sure the rest of the world likes to see 0 on his knees kissing Castro's butt.

    It is the dem/progressive leaders that intentionally created a welfare system that keeps the Blacks on the plantation chained to government dependence where a woman having a husband costs her benefits that she had depended on for her whole life.

    I'm not that worried about what you think is in my mind because you have no clue. In the end you and your family - if you get your way - will he converted to islamoism or killed.
     
  23. Jahnny B

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    The only people who "like and respect" Obama are those of the asses he kissed. No president should EVER bow down to another foreign leader. No president should "draw a line in the sand" then let another firings leader not just step over it but keep marching passed it like it means nothing, then do nothing about it. Foreign leaders "like" him because he's a paper champion, a push over, a joke. Easily manipulated and controlled like a puppet. No one really respects that man
     
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    You're in "war mode"? Tough luck; if you hadn't spent the past 50 years pissing-off half the planet you wouldn't have people flying aeroplanes into your tall buildings. You reap what you sow.

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    I see, so chest-beating, belligerence and arrogance is the way to garner respect? It hasn't done America much good so far.
     
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    I said no such thing. All I stated was that Obama is a push over. He is weak and no real foreign power respects him because they view him so. He doesn't have to be Hercules. But you don't need to be the peasant at people's feet as the leader of the free world. What's wrong with being a strong leader? One that demands respect and will return the same. One that says if you go to far, I will make you stop. One that doesn't tuck his tail at the presence of other foreign leaders. So again no one respects Obama, they "like" him for being as tough as soaked paper bag. People may not have liked bush, but foreign leaders respected him, same with Clinton.
     

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