video: whos really racist, white or black people? lets find out!

Apparently it's racist against all groups irregardless of color or ethnicity if a 6 to 2 decision by the Supreme Court means anything: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/04/22/305850221/supreme-court-affirms-ban-on-race-conscious-college-admissions

 

I understand that a belief of yours is going up in smoke, but it is what it is.

The likes of you want to have your cake and eat it too. You want to beat black people over the head for affirmative action, something other races benefit more from, especially white people. So what a few minorities get placeholders through veterans preferences? The bottom line is white men and white women benefit most from Affirmative Action.

Oh and veterans preference is in no way, shape, or form a tiny part of it. Just look at lists of contractors for the government and look at AA laws for veterans and disabled veterans.

 

Speaking to the cameras-its allowed in public places, but if the person speaks to someone, it requires a waver to air.

They have done self polling, btw-and blacks describe themselves as more racist than other groups.

 

They get their racism from the Bible, as god was cool with his chosen race killing other tribes who were not of the chosen race. Jesus never condemned those people, and never condemned his dad (the god in question), so Jesus was likely racist, too.

 

Yeah, there are racist blacks. How the heck that makes racist white people one iota less disgusting, I can't see.

 

But there was also the companion video that showed white people allowing a white stranger borrow their phone but denying the same privilege to the black stranger.

So it was not a hit piece on black people or white people, but just illustrated that prejudices still exist in our society. We might have a spirited discussion here on whether these bits of Americana are actually racism or prejudice due to conditioning. And whether prejudice or racism is the same thing.

If the white man or the black man are conditioned to expect the worst from the other, that could affect their reaction to such a request. If our personal experiences with people of another race are positive, we might react very differently than if our experiences had been negative.

Consider the black man on foot in a violent all-black neighborhood. He hears footsteps behind him and is immediately afraid for his life. He turns and is relieved to see that the approaching person is a white person that he does not naturally fear in that neighborhood. Ditto in an all-white neighborhood, a white person might be relieved to see that the approaching person was black instead of one of the skinheads who had been regularly mugging and robbing people.

There are all kinds of dynamics at work here that have nothing to do with racism, but involve trust factor based on experience.

 

You're so predictable, NI.

 

But there was also the companion video that showed white people allowing a white stranger borrow their phone but denying the same privilege to the black stranger.

Fair, and I address this in another post down thread.

So it was not a hit piece on black people or white people, but just illustrated that prejudices still exist in our society. We might have a spirited discussion here on whether these bits of Americana are actually racism or prejudice due to conditioning. And whether prejudice or racism is the same thing.

From my pov, these are due to conditioning. I travel and I don't observe similar reactions everywhere I travel. In addition, history reveals that behaviors are due to conditioning. The Indigenous People of what we call the Americas weren't hostile. They were so positive to the European travelors that they ended up as slaves. Some uncontacted tribes will react to a fair-skinned person with curiosity and wonder. My anecdotal pov may not carry much weight, but I believe some people can agree that being hostile to 'others' isn't something in everyone/race it is a learnt response.

If the white man or the black man are conditioned to expect the worst from the other, that could affect their reaction to such a request. If our personal experiences with people of another race are positive, we might react very differently than if our experiences had been negative.

I agree.

Consider the black man on foot in a violent all-black neighborhood. He hears footsteps behind him and is immediately afraid for his life. He turns and is relieved to see that the approaching person is a white person that he does not naturally fear in that neighborhood. Ditto in an all-white neighborhood, a white person might be relieved to see that the approaching person was black instead of one of the skinheads who had been regularly mugging and robbing people.

A hypothetical doesn't cut it for me. I'm incredibly bias on this sort of thing so this doesn't move me one way or another, especially since I grew up and still live around "black" people. The hypothetical is for someone else.

There are all kinds of dynamics at work here that have nothing to do with racism, but involve trust factor based on experience.

True, but don't underestimate propaganda! Haha.

 

No way poster. In fact I'm surprised you can say that in this thread. Where am I wrong? Remember, keep on topic and not on me, k? .

 

It doesn't matter what your race is. It shouldn't have any relevance on job qualification. The fact you think it should shows who the real racists are. Who said in beating anyone, except you who obviously have an agenda against giving jobs to those most qualified. Justified discrimination is still discrimination.

Veterans include everyone so how does it help white people more?



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We don't seem to have a lot of disagreement here. Those examples I used, however, were not hypothetical, but summarized experiences reported by real people. Therefore they were not hypothetical any more than were the cherry picked examples used for illustration in those videos.

 

Which white man? Which black man? There are certainly people with both skin colors who may unfairly prejudge others by the color of their skin. But to claim you can determine whether someone will do that... just by the color of their skin... can I assume you're making a joke here?




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It doesn't matter what your race is. It shouldn't have any relevance on job qualification.

Generally agree.

The fact you think it should shows who the real racists are. Who said in beating anyone, except you who obviously have an agenda against giving jobs to those most qualified. Justified discrimination is still discrimination.

Wait what?! This is a major strawman. What you're addressing was never part of my posts.

Veterans include everyone so how does it help white people more?

Probably more white veterans than anything else applying for certain positions. Either way, the biggest beneficiaries of AA are white.

 

This thread is about racism. Thinking that white males, and white females need their heads bashed in is on topic. Just because someone is white doesn't mean he/she can't be racist against the white race.

 

*Chuckling* What? Bashing heads in? Wrong person and wrong thread tidbit. Haha.

 

Tell that to the marxist left who thinks yt is automatically guilty of racism just for being white.

 

Racism is a marxist term.
By marxist standards, these Negroes are rayciss.

Let's look at it another way, though.
These phones are their property. They can loan it or refuse it to anyone they please.
There are other options:

Why didn't the white man let his black friend use their phone to relay the message for him?
The White man could have offered them money to use their phone.

 

I only talk to people. Not labels.



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#whitephonesmatter

 

Tell that to the marxist left who use labels endlessly against white men, while criticizing whites who use labels.

 

Like you're doing now?



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Its a one way street with lefties.

 

clearly we're targeting the racist ones... I'm using this as an opportunity to break open the racism conversation, and debunk the myth its white people who are the racist ones causing all the social issues we have... its a mutual fault by a minority on both sides of the fence, but we never seem to bring both of those racist minorities into the discussion table so we can solve the problem and move forward, instead we blame white people today for the history of their ancestors... negating any potential remedies that don't inject just as much racism as we claim to stand against... I mean why do we STILL today demand black leaders replace white leaders, white the rationalization and justification that "they know what we want"... well that is racist at the core because it now says they don't know what white people would want, so if people demand leaders be replaced by people of the "correct" skin color to somehow "balance" power out, all it tells me is they think black people lead black people and white people lead white people, and that no leader is capable of leading us all... and thats the issue society is struggling with today in the black lives matter movement... racism at its core..

 

how about bankrupt detroit for the best glaring example of where blacks control all the positions of power in politics, education, media, business... yet the failed education system, failed government, failing city everything would suggest its still the states fault, as we were told countless times during the bankruptcy process, they blamed republicans at the state level for all the woes of the city and its decades long neglect and decline and failure to address problems hoping they could wait it out...

(let me guess though, you're going to try to nitpick and find one thing wrong with detroit to still blame white people right, fishing expedition, here we gooooo)

 

Everyone is racist to a degree.