Why supporting gay marriage means splitting the country

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  1. Il Ðoge

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    I'm not sure how many liberal people appreciate or understand this and I feel like explaining. Sometimes a liberal accuses conservatives of being willing to take anything from the rich. To a certain degree this is true, conservative people and especially Christians are willing to take a lot. But there's certain things they won't budge on. Early Christians / Jews didn't budge on these things, the Romans made concessions for them, and with the exception of liberal denominations that are dying out surprisingly quickly, there's basically no religious people who budge on issues like gay marriage. So basically, yes conservatives are willing to take a lot of things but stuff like gay marriage and men in the ladies' restrooms aren't some of those things. And if you zero in on the few things that conservatives will never budge on and make them the center of your platform, what you're really doing is splitting up the United States since they are never going to accept your positions on those things, no matter what happens.
     
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    You do not need to accept it. It is the law of the land. Sorry
     
  3. Il Ðoge

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    This is of course the attitude I was referring to. The US is going to have a criminal for president (either Hillary or Trump) and the law of the land will be taken less seriously every year so long as this kind of attitude prevails. A country won't stay together unless someone is willing to turn the other cheek and if liberal people idealize the few things that Christians won't accept, seemingly no one in the US is going to shoulder that burden.
     
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    A criminal is someone convicted of a charge. So you are just way off on your facts. Sorry you don't get to discriminate
     
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    Seems like the only ones doing the 'splitting' are the right wing conservative so called 'christians' who are putting their political and religious hate ahead of their country and the Constitution.
    Now explain why the rest of the country should bow down to a few conservative nut jobs that feed off hate and have control issues?
     
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    I regularly split from people I don't like. Freedom of association. If Christians want to split from gays, have at it. The rest of us don't care.
     
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    Legally, yes. Socially.... best stay in frisco.
     
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    A. The lead up to your premise is irrelevant to your premise.
    B. The country isn't being split up based on SSM. Homosexuals will continue to get married, and an ever smaller percentage of conservatives will wail and gnash their teeth.
    C. Conservatives don't have to accept the positions of those in favor of SSM. It's the law, it's reality and they can let their irrational fears and hatred keep them warm at night.

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    Your fantasy is, to say the least, rather ill informed.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/117328/marriage.aspx
     
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    My fantasy? Most people don't really care about gays, so long as they fit in and aren't too obvious about it. That has been the case for quite awhile now. The supreme court didn't change that, nor did it change the fact that social acceptance isn't something you can legislate.
     
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    Acceptance is not required. That will come in time. But the law will be followed or you will be held accountable
     
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    There have been gays since there have been humans, so if you think all we need is a bit more time, I'm afraid you're in for a looooong wait.

    and sure, the law will be followed, or... or the left will get sand in their twisted panties.

    Do you know how many times I've had to show my marriage license in order to get people to follow the law that says heterosexuals can be married? Zero times. So yeah, have fun enforcing this law that must be followed or else you'll get grumpy and try to get some government employee fired. Then you can dance a jig, and at the end of the day, they still won't be accepted unless they know how to keep their homosexuality in check,

    Just like they've had to do for thousands of years.
     
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    Whether or not Libs like it or not you do make a valid point. Natures law will always be. I can't see how attitudes will change in that respect.
     
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    Attitudes are irrelevant. No one cares. You lost the war. Stop sulking
     
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    Dude...give it up.

    You lost on this issue.

    The nation is leaving people like you behind
     
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    I'm not sulking at all. I'm just stating an opinion.
     
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    The number of people opposed to gay marriage is steadily declining. Some will never agree with gay marriage. We aren't ever going to get compete agreement on what the law should be.

    They can complain and try to get the law changed, but legally, they will take those things. They aren't going to rise up in armed revolt over it.

    There are always going to be a chunk of the population that is not happy with the way the country is going.
     
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    People said the same about racial mixing

    Peoples attituds clearly ARE changing
    Just check the shifting polling results over the last 10 years
     
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    A whiny opinion. Lol
     
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    How Liberal of you. Insults.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can see Obama following the same path that Rod Blagojevich followed. And what is Rod?
     
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    Awwww...we have butthewt

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    You appear to be looking through some (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up glasses
     
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    How conservative of you. Intolerance

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    You are seeing things. LOL
     
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    Well, it's none of the government's business what two people do in their own home. It is none of the government's business if two people want to enter into a social contract(marriage) with one another. Christian-Conservatives can hate it all they want, but they shouldn't be able to infringe on the rights of the people. Simple as that. If you want to disagree with it and think they are sinners or whatever, that is fine, but no law should be made to prevent it.
     
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    Yes, you're stating an opinion but you're stating it as fact. You're wrong. That's a fact.
     
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    So stating an opinion is considered intolerant. I guess free thought process is not to be tolerated by the left. Who exactly is the intolerant one here?
     

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