France Voted To Dump Russian Sanctions

If France carries it through, there are other EU members that will follow suit. Italy, Hungary, Greece and probably Austria and some others.

 

It will be funny

when only Germany and England

are left to carry baggage.


Moi


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the sanctions have hurt Russia a lot.

 

The problem with your argument here, MarkusS, is that the EU has become accustomed to speaking with a ventriloquists voice that represents it's essential constituency, namely the US and corporate interests in general. This has happened for too long and people are growing tired of it. What Europe needs to do is step permanently away from the idea of a political union and work harder toward a trading union - which was what it was originally. I think the political union idea - although having far older origins - came about as much for a NATO bulwark again the Soviet Union of those days as a political dogma.

While many things have changed over the decades it seems clear that people just don't want to turn their national sovereignty over to a bunch of unelected (but) appointed Brussels bureaucrats who are interested in filling their back pockets as anything else.

 

That sounds like wishful thinking on a forum to me! From a Frenchman living in Hawaii? Hmm, now why does the word 'agenda' come to mind?

 

Sounds nice on paper but reality is far different. Germany is the hegemon of europe. The military leaders UK and France have little to say since germany ha the absolute power. No decission in europe can be made against the will of germany. The EU guarantees peace because it allows the nations to share interests. Germany and France are arch enemies and the EU calms them down and allows them to cooperate. The moment the uniting EU falls is the moment when germany will need to build up a massive military to match up its geo political and economical power.

Germany has more political power than UK, France and Italy combined. Berlin basicly is the uncrowned capital of europe and its this "accidential empire" that guarantees peace here.

The big 4 in europe are Germany, France, Uk and Italy. The UK has become political irrelevant and France is led by weaklings and suffers from economical problems.

As for Italy we believe the EU is a correction for some of our internal problems. Be it corruption, mafia and bad budget decissions.

Anotehr factor is that europe needs freedom of movement. The most idiotic thing would be to install boarder checks again.

The young people plain and simple love to travel around. Its no problem for me to make a party weekend in berlin. visit friends in valencia or go shopping in paris. And it would be horrible if this ends.

 

The UK's political power over Germany is delivered at gun point mate. Don't you forget it.
How we would all laugh about it down the pub afterwards! And so would you. And so would the Russians. And so would the Americans.
Germany doesn't get to own dick and Germany knows it.
Germany has another way. They seek to please you. They are benign in spirit. They will likely do more to help you than any other country. Not all their medicine will taste good. But their intentions will be.

 

Yes, they didn't work with Iran either...

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/failure-iranian-sanctions

 

Territorial sovereignty is more important than national self-determination. You either respect territorial sovereignty totally or you let the people decide what country they want to live in: give Chechnya its independence, let Kurdistan be independent, let the Falkland Islands to the UK, let Catalonia be independent etc.

 

Let the people decide it is then.
Death to all tyrants. That's what I preach.

 

We agree to disagree then.

 

You agree then that it should be up to the people to decide, like for instance the Donbas in Ukraine, and the Kurds in Turkey? As for Chechnya, I don't think they want their freedom. They have it quite well with mother Russia.

 

Of course not.....why would anyone want an outdated concept such as "freedom"? I'm willing to bet, however, that you like 'freedom' for yourself even as you deny that human spirit in the people of Chechnya.

 

any time a small area votes for independence and then votes to join a neigboring authoritarian regime that just happened to pour its military in to help support their war for "liberation", I laugh and giggle.

 

go france!!! Putin is a friend!!!

 

The people of Chechnya have their own rule within the Russian Federation. Why would they want the CIA affiliated Wahabbi terrorists to control their country, you do know that's who they were fighting in the wars. Would you want them?

As for them not being free in Russia, here's a video that shows their loyalty to their supreme commander Vladimir Putin:

[video=youtube;zwZ1yWkhh_s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwZ1yWkhh_s[/video]

 

Some of your posts are so perspicacious that I find it difficult to believe that you're the same Baff who said 'I'm glad the queen is my Boss'.

Actually you wrote 'Queen' with a fawning er, I mean respectful capital Q.

 

When did "freedom" become an outdated concept? And who says it is? Besides you that is...

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I laugh and giggle at almost all your posts, which numerically is far more often than the model you present.

 

The Queen is my boss because I choose for her to be so.
It is not beholden on you to make the same political affiliations as me.
This is a free society.

I believe that if a political divide is reasonably well matched with a geographic divide that independence is preferable to tyranny. So separate Ireland from N Ireland. Separate West Scotland from East Scotland. And so on. People who have no desire to live under another's rule should not be forced to.

"perspicacious" sorry, too big a word. I don't know what this means!

 

It isn't about politics it's about subservience, and subservience to a total stranger. Don't you ever stop to think that she wouldn't pee on you if you were on fire?

 

Actually no, I don't think that at all.
I think the opposite is more likely to be true.

Once again it's a free society. If you do not wish to be subservient to the Queen, do not do so.
No one will force you here.
We fought a war over it. That battle has been both fought and won.

 

Tens of thousands flood Warsaw in ‘biggest’ anti-govt, pro-EU protest in decades (VIDEO)

I hope they don't squander this opportunity. Ero needs to be stronger in order to gain independence. But for that to happen, they need strong leaders.

 

There was a Co in ukrsine. A us backed Co if you recall.



Members of Obama cabinet were on records discussing who should be in power.

If Russia did something like this in Mexico, America would sent their troops in and bombed the Co factions to hell.

 

No EU countries share nukes u Der NATO's nuclear deterrence policy. Even if EU broke up, they will still be members of NATO.

 

No one in NATO believes that, which is why we maintain independent deterrents.

Ask yourself this, if Germany got nuked, would the UK assure it's own self destruction?
It would not and it's populace would all have a good laugh about Germany.

We do not expect America to launch if we get nuked. That's why we have our own.



NATO has no policy on shared use of nuclear weapons that I am aware of and no policy about their usage.

According to the NATO website, this is their nuclear policy.

•NATO’s nuclear policy is based on NATO’s 2010 Strategic Concept and the 2012 Deterrence and Defence Posture Review.
•The fundamental purpose of NATO’s nuclear forces is deterrence.
•Deterrence, based on an appropriate mix of nuclear and conventional capabilities, remains a core element of NATO’s overall strategy.
•Nuclear weapons are a core component of the Alliance’s overall capabilities for deterrence and defence alongside conventional and missile defence forces.
•NATO is committed to arms control, disarmament and non-proliferation, but as long as nuclear weapons exist, it will remain a nuclear alliance.
•The Nuclear Planning Group provides the forum for consultation on NATO’s nuclear deterrence.