Why blacks don't need Civil Rights

You are disrupting this thread....against the rules.

As has been said many,many times if you do not like a thread stay away.

 

Black people do and black people have. A lot of the so-called gangs were actually organizations to police their own neighborhood, but with drugs entering the neighborhood, and the CIA shutting down these groups, police assumed this role. There was one time when you really couldn't kill someone in a black neighborhood without retribution. And surprisingly (sarcasm) crime was low in the black community at that time. Back in the 1900s-1950s black communities were mostly self-governed. As police response wasn't expected, people stepped up and police their own communities.

If anything policing made it worse because it is basically black people being monitored by the government. It is VERY clear that police presence in the black community isn't working because they just take down small time dealers every time. This is why the war on drugs is pointless as well as strong armed policing is a waste of money.

It is very obvious that we need the free market to deal with the education problem in the black community.

Gangs harass people in these communities because these people don't and can't fight back. If you armed every black family in the hood, I guarantee you gang members would never bother. But because the government punish you for trying to combat crime in your own neighborhood, most people don't take the risk. Understand this, most black people even in poor neighborhoods are mostly decent people. So they don't break the laws, and they don't purchase guns, or obtain them illegally. This makes black neighorhoods prime targets for cowardly gangs. But imagine if everyone in the black community had a gun? Yeah, you better believe the gang problem will be solved pretty quickly.

 

You got it ass backwards....integration is the problem as in most understand it has been a complete failure...due to the fact that most people prefer being around their own kind....the great majority of crime and violence originates in mixed race communities and neighborhoods.

The best available solution to solve the inner city problems would be to segregate...and organize a black police force to deal with the black areas....aka let the blacks police the blacks and the whites police the whites....it worked that way once and quite well.

 

This is an opinion forum. He gave his opinion of the thread. I agree.

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Are you seriously saying that "integration is the problem"?

Maybe we should have walled and barb wire ghettos enforced by the state huh?

 

I am on board with pretty much all that you said. Still need some form of government tough. Sorry, anarchy is a pipedream.

 

No, we are not on the same page. I don't think blacks should go back to Africa unless they're willing to move there via their own money and find citizenship there. Since I'm not even sure blacks in America actually come from Africa to begin with. There are many theories that seem to suggest that the "out of Africa" theory for black Americans is flawed, as there is no real evidence black people came from Africa. I'm open on this, but I'm leaning towards the theory of black Americans not actually coming from Africa.

On the second note, it's very important that you understand this. I AM a capitalist, and I believe in competition. I believe in survival of the fittest and a true free market. I want black people to be able to compete and I feel once we have a truly free market with no protectionism or plutocracy, we may see a much different picture. And if black people fail to compete in a true free market, then they (we) deserve whatever fate we receive.

 

Seriously? It's not a theory. Most American blacks are the descendants of slaves brought from Africa. That is pure historical fact.

 

What so called integration has accomplished is to increase the crime rate and impoverish the government by wasting resources that could have been used to finance something viable and desirable.


Only people that live in ivory towers of idealism ever believed that integration works or was ever even desirable by the majority. It has been a absolute failure and the cost unbelievable and is still costing horrendous sums of money to prop up and try and make it appear that it has some value...idiotic thinking from the gitgo.

All so called integration has accomplished is to increase crime and deplete the treasury.

 

I think it's theory at this point. And the reason why is because there is no actual remaining slave ships left from the transatlantic slave trade. There are records of slavery, but that's too be expected. But no actual physical evidence of actual slave ships that went to Africa. We're only talking about 170 years ago, so there should still be slave ships. But there aren't. Don't you find that the least bit suspicious?

 

Integration works very well in business.

 

Ships were made out of wood. Wood rots and breaks down, especially in salt water, unless it is specifically and carefully preserved.

Why would you expect anyone to preserve slave ships? After the slave trade ended, they got converted to other commercial uses or were broken down for scrap.

 

That's just convenient. We have war ships from Rome nearly 1,000 years ago made out of wood. We can't get 1 slave ship from a fraction of the time of Rome? The transatlantic slave trade went on for hundreds of years. You're going to tell me that not 1 slave ship would remain today? This is why me and many other people see the "out of Africa" theory as bogus.

 

Where do you think American Blacks came from? Anyhow....since the Negroes were brought here.....I do think we have a obligation to return them ....if and as I said they would like to go back.

It would be to the interest of both parties.....the cost of returning them would not be that great as in right now ...very few would choose to go back....most likely just a few elites at the moment who do understand the potential rewards. Eventually I could see it becoming a mass movement muck akin as to how many thousands and thousands of blacks migrated up north during and right aftere wwii

 

The Mediterranean is a hell of a lot more shallow than the Atlantic. The Roman ships were have found are barely intact wrecks.

Slave ships got converted to other commercial purposes after the slave trade was made illegal. Why would someone preserve slave ships?

How do you account for the fact that American blacks are genetically identical to blacks from West Africa?

 

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the thread title made me think we were removing civil rights from blacks

 

There is no need to return anyone anywhere. Let's just compete

 

We have competitors already like China and the Europeans...we do not need a competitor within our own borders.

In regards to a modern black exodous to Africa....that is the only way that American Blacks will ever possibly be able to retain the status they desire....self governing with a huge continent loaded with natural resources...with the American know how many blacks have accumulated that would give them a big boost in becoming a powerful community in Africa.

 

Every individual is naturally in competition with each other. And only form unity if it's within their own interest. Why do you think Black Americans are better off under Africa, a land and people they have no connection to. And what makes you think Africans will let Americans come there and open up shop? You're living in a fantasy world.

Competition is a good thing, when you compete, you keep creating higher and higher standards. It's good for everyone if people were just allowed to compete with no protectionism, and just a totally free market. I think competition and markets will probably put us at the best advantage against China, India, and Europe.

 

I'm not going to try and argue with you but only point out how ridiculous your post appears

I hope you realize the executive branch of the U.S. government is now run by blacks
The president and the head of the department of justice are black

Most city governments are predominantly black rule

a number of west point students are now under investigation because of a picture
All of those students are black

The leader of the largest political party in the nation is black

And if you do a little research you'll find there is almost 50 black members of Congress
You'll also find black students are graduating college in record numbers

And that is only a small portion of the list of changes that has occurred since the beginning of the civil rights movement and the passing of the civil rights act of 1964

You say you are black I do not doubt you
What I do have doubts about
Is your Knowledge of a black history and especially when it pertains to discrimination
It was not just government imposed segregation
That held many blacks back

You should really do some research on a subject before you post about it

 

I don't think Thanos is black.

 

Wow. So now you're saying that there was no slavery?

Dude...I thought your OP was out there but man...you need to get your meds adjusted.

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I'm not sure he's an adult...

 

I never said that there as no slavery. I said that there is a chance that black Americans may not have necessarily came from Africa. According to many anthropologist, there were "Africans" already in the America's already. So many just think blacks themselves are indigenous to America. As many blacks have similar features and appearances to indigenous groups in the America's

 

Anytime a black goes off the liberal plantation or posts conservative views he is accused of not being a black.

Look at how the liberal media protected obama but attacked Ben Carson...a far superior black than the mixed blood obama.

If Dr. Carson had been posting on here anonymously as a black conservative he would have been demonized.

Apparantly there is a group that shares similar views that American Blacks did not come from Africa....a bit far out for me but people have the right to believe what they want without being attacked simply because they have different thoughts than the majority....there are some people out there who believe the earth is flat, there are some people out there who believe there is no such thing as a race, others believe all peeps are equal etc.etc. and so forth a lot of erroneous beliefs out there....but those who believe such ...should not be attacked in a personal sense.

 

so there were no African slaves in the USA?

LOL!!!!