Why blacks don't need Civil Rights

Deny recorded history if you want, but the fact is that Black americans are mostly descended from black africans who came to this country in chains. The Out of Africa theory (which has far more evidence for it than any other competing theory.) is the idea tha mankind originated in Africa and spread out from there to the rest of the world. All you are doing is showing your lack of education on these subjects.

 

I don't want to get too much into it. I have heard a lot of unsubstantiated theories about blacks and Africans, and I think the theory has some levels of plausibility. I never said I fully believe it, only that my mind is open to it. With that out of the way, even if black Americans were decendants of Africans, black Americans should not be sent to Africa. Since Black Americans really don't have any real connection to Africa.

 

We all saw what existed without them. For almost 100 years. And that's just after the EP.

 

then why do they try and force everyone to call them african/americans...just sayin ya know?

 

According to WHO?

My Gawd.

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I'm just sitting here shaking my head...

I'm actually speechless

 

He makes more sense than you. I will tell you how it should have been handled and if ole honest abe had not been assasinated he might have seen to it..............When slavery was ended the blacks should have been declared American Citizens or repatriated to Africa.

As citizens they would automatically have the same rights as all other citizens...no need to make special legislation for them.

Now of course the best thing and I stand with Abraham Lincoln on this....they should have been sent back...we could gradually have set up colonies for them in Liberia and or other congenial areas of Africa...sustained them until they could be self supporting....can you imagine how much better off America would be today if Lincoln's desire had been granted.

 

There is more in heaven and earth Horatio than dreamt of in your philosophy....there are groups that suscribe to that belief....not that I agree with it...but there are a lot of things put out that are not true...and a lot of things that are not put out that are true.

The earliest people in the Americas were Negroes.
http://raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/ancientamerica.htm

 

Well the narrative of history is that blacks sat around and were wholesale slaughtered and harassed by white people. And while that was definitely true to a degree, there are many black people who started businesses, opened up their own banks, and actually saw some levels of economic prosperity. As I said in the original post, black American society hasn't always been in the shape it is today. Back in the 1940s a black community back then wouldn't even look the same as a black community now (for poor black communities). There were things like Black Wallstreet, there were black Doctors, even black mathematicians. So there was a concept of middle class black people even without the promise from the government and Civil Rights.

I think it is a shame where history is purposely set up to make black people look weak, and that it was only the Federal Government that swooped in and "saved" us. That's not true at all

 

Federal agencies like the HOLC and FHA basically sponsored the wholesale destruction of black communities after WWII by severely restricting access to loans and defining all black people as economic risks ("redlining"). These were the same New Deal programs which essentially started the wave of postwar suburbanization. There are also the numerous highway projects which cut right through many communities and destroyed them without any recourse to the residents aside from ill-conceived, Corbusier-inspired housing projects - in my state of NJ, East Orange is a prime example of this.

But at the time, the government sang soothing songs that all of the suburbanization going on was purely the result of the free market (it wasn't) and the majority was happy to believe the bullsh!t.

 

Regardless of how many black people might have found prosperity, it doesn't change the fact that others were purposefully kept down by the law and by societal customs. It wasn't necessary to pass these kinds of laws to stop a legal caste system that kept down white folks of European descent. I don't see the civil rights era reforms as the government swooping in to save people, I see it as the government excising what had become a nasty cancerous tumor within itself. There's lots of those in government, some big and some small. This was a rather large one, which took the shape of official laws based on idiocy and arbitrary prejudices against arbitrary people.

 

Nope, I really can't. And I would be beyond ashamed of my country and it's history if that had actually been official and effective policy. Black people should have been treated, from the start, as no different than a white person. Anything less than that, at any time in any form, is a stain on my country.

[video=youtube;LQCU36pkH7c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQCU36pkH7c[/video]

 

Even a cursory review of US history prior to blacks being included in the protections of the Constitution proves your suggestion to be utterly ridiculous.

 

Completely refused to deal wid da link eh? heh heh http://raceandhistory.com/historical...entamerica.htm

 

Most American blacks are genetically identical to West Africans. They do not have genetic links to indigenous groups.

 

Man, the left nuts are all in a tizzy over this one.

 

You should think about the horrendous level of black on black crime....blacks kill more blacks in chicago in 6 months than the kkk did in it's entire era of violence.

https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...ds-cse&usg=AFQjCNG94I27BZy9LbkjOhcPFKDtXbS2Nw

 

hehheh they get very upset anytime...anyone does not follow the liberal narrative.

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Got any data on dat?

 

Yea, "one of theirs" as they see it has gotten uppity and puttin on airs.

 

This pretty much says all I need to know about you. Good day, sir.

 

You are not one who should be talking about a lack of education.........the out of africa theory has been debunked.

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You need to know much more than that unfortunately.....aka............Fred On Everything

 

Actually they're not. And there is nothing in science that says they are.

 

1st ANCIENT AMERICANS Were BLACK! - White Archaeologists Discover - YouTube

Out of africa theory debunked>>>https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...ds-cse&usg=AFQjCNEHtsXAiV8Kb2TU7N0JSYNIPyuhgw

 

Anything will show up in anyone's given DNA. This is basic stuff. Why? Because you will take successive genes of previous generation. The only thing that could be said about black Americans is that they aren't the same genetically as white Americans. The do share DNA with Western Africans, but most people do. Plus this is not to say that they don't have African DNA, it to say that they weren't brought over by slave ships.


Native Americans are NOT a homogenous group genetically. There are many groups in Brazil where people who are genetically identical to Africans are. Somehow, someway, there are people who are technically Africans who have lived in America for thousands of years. The more plausible theory is that this is where slaves actually came from.


Again this is all anecdotal, and this isn't anything I embrace as truth. But there are many good points to the theory which are valid. Since there actually isn't proof of a transatlantic slave trade. It is assumed that it happened, but there has never been anything tangible.


So let's just review this. There were already Africans in America that people think are indigenous to the USA. How they got to America is a bit of a mystery honestly, but anthropologist generally believe that these people are "Africans". So this means it is very possible that that Black Americans and Africans have a much bigger drift in DNA. There are mostly certainly characteristics that Black Americans have that Africans don't.

 

Who were the Olmecs?

The mysterious Olmec civilization prospered in Pre-Classical (Formative) Mesoamerica from c. 1200 BCE to c. 400 BCE and is generally considered the forerunner of all subsequent Mesoamerican cultures such as the Maya and Aztecs. Centred in the Gulf of Mexico (now the states of Veracruz and Tabasco) their influence and trade activity spread from 1200 BCE, even reaching as far south as present-day Nicaragua. Monumental sacred complexes, massive stone sculpture, ball games, chocolate drinking and animal gods were features of Olmec culture which would be passed on to all those who followed this first great Mesoamerican civilization.


Olmec Civilization - Ancient History Encyclopedia

 

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