Should White Students be Allowed to Establish Student Groups Based on Race?

Correct. Europe's colonization spread their unique brand of racism to many parts of the world. So?

 

Really? So racism only exists in Europeans?

 

In my opinion more inclusive groups should be promoted, rather than divisive groups. College should be a time to broaden your horizons, meet and enjoy new people and make friends for life instead of limiting yourself to be pulled into a shelter where you only get one opinion.

But, as long as other groups are allowed to have their little clubs then keeping white people from having theirs would be discriminatory and hypocritical.

Saying white people should not feel proud of who they are is already an overload of hypocrisy.

 

In Baltimore, where they are rioting against themselves, blacks make up more than 50% but still somehow oppressed by the all black city council and democrat mayor and majority black police force.

 

Did I say that? Don't think I did. But grouping people by race (physical attributes like skin color) rather than ethnicity (culture, nationality, etc) and the belief that there are natural, immutable differences between those groups is largely a European idea. And they exported that idea when they colonized a large percentage of the world.

 

Yes, you did.

 

No, as you just proved, I did not say that racism only exists in Europeans.

 

Nope, you claimed only Europeans are racist.

 

That is a lie. I made no such claims. But your inability to refute what I did say, is duly noted.

 

Put it to you this way. I go to the most diverse law school in the nation. (Thurgood Marshall School of Law). We've got arabic student groups, african student groups, black law association, hispanic law association, asian etc.
Want to know the one group we don't have? White law association. Want to know who freaked out when a white guy suggested we form one? Everyone including the white people. Want to know what they said? Yall are racist.

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So race based groups are analogous to the KKK and other hateful groups? Why does that apply only to the white students groups and not to the others based upon race?

 

As someone put it earlier, whites being 70% of the population don't need one because they're the majority.

 

The groups aren't FOR minorities only. They are simple interest groups and social clubs.

 

AA was never intended to be a quota system, and in fact the real Liberals of the 1960's fought to prevent it from turning into one, but the neo-fascist 'progressive' brownshirts decided in their egotistical fever ridden minds to destroy the liberal wing of the Democratic Party, sunk Humphrey in the 1968 elections, and got Nixon elected. Nixon immediately revived the quota system for AA and the rest, as they say, is 'history'.

If this is an historical issue you're interested in, the best book available on the Civil Rights era is Hugh Davis Graham's The Civil Rights Era: Origins and Development of National Policy. Virtually everything Patrick Moynihan predicted would happen if the 'progressives' were allowed to distort and essentially wreck AA and the Civil Rights legislation has come to pass, to a T.

The myth that one has to support a quota system in order to support AA is a persistent one. The black middle class and the NAACP love it, as it allows them many benefits and subsidies for themselves, while they can use their own people as hostages in the 'Hoods to extort more bennies and set asides for themselves. No problem for them, as they ran away from the Hoods and urban blight right along with whites out to the Burbs. You can think of these fake astro-turfing gangs like BLM, the Michael Browns, Trayvons, and Freddie Grays as the black political hacks' version of Useful Idiots

 

Nonsense. They face racial discrimination and hate crimes more so than any other racial demographic.

 

You are correct, you lied about making the claim. Stand by your convictions. You claimed that racism was a European thing. Don't go flip-flopping on us now.

 

In that case, it would make sense for people of like-minded heritages to wanna have their own interest group or club.

 

Really? Let me ask this: do you want a white-based group purely because it's something you'd believe it or only because other people have one, because I feel like most of the complaints about "why can't whites have a group" only take place because blacks or Arabs or Latinos have one.

 

No, let's let such-minded white college students form "White Pride Club" or "White Students Alliance Club".....making sure their membership is PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE and undeniable.....


and then let's see who hires them after graduation.

 

Because, within the context of the OP's post, there is no such thing as a "white"" race. What many posters here seem to be alluding to is the belief in what for all intents and purposes sounds like the idea of an Aryan race, which is a pseudoscience justification for racism.

What American blacks share in common is ancestral descent from Africa who were brought here against their will to be slaves, and so it is also true with Asians, who were brought to the US during the Industrial Revolution.. What Latinos share in common is their descendent history is tied to Spanish colonization.

It is because of Caucasians discriminatory history that these groups banded together, and now that Caucasians of European descent are becoming the minority, they are all bent out of shape and try to justify their discriminatory behavior by false equivalency.

I say, get over it!

It's not all about "white" people.

 

Except the common refrain, both expressed here and expressed in any discussion I've ever had on the subject is: You want that because you're racist but when we want the same thing it doesn't mean we're racist.

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You realize that's not how these clubs work right? And to put such an unequal burden on one group but not another based solely upon race is a flagrant violation of equal protection?

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The complaints stem from the double standard expressed. Whites try it? You're all racists, is the refrain. Any other group tries it? Well look how wonderfully diverse we all are.

 

All american blacks are descended from slaves? I'll have to tell all the friends I have that are 2nd generation immigrants.
All american asians were brought over during the industrial revolution? Do tell do tell. I'll have to tell all my friends whose parents immigrated after 'nam that that was apparently during the industrial revolution. Say was this before or after the chinese exclusion acts?

 

Whites will be the majority even when they're 49%?

I don't know how to respond to that. Is that liberal math?

 

People of certain backgrounds just happen to have some things in common with others. I'll throw an example out and say, a Haitian Students Group for students who have Haitian heritage, or may even be directly from Haiti.

The thing is, none of these interest groups or clubs are designed to offend or claim superiority over another.

 

Yes, I know why people form social clubs at college thank you.

Neither would a white law students association be designed to offend or claim superiority over another any more than the already in existence (I can't stress that enough. ) BLACK law students assocation or the ASIAN law students association etc. And yet the latter 2 exist and the former when it is suggested is shouted down with cries of bigotry and racism and xenophobia o my!

Now that I've explained this to you in detail, do you care to comment upon the double standard either as to its existence or validity?

 

I haven't flip flopped. I stand by what I said. Europeans spread their unique brand of racism through much of the world through colonization. Your insistence that I claimed racism only exists in Europeans is a lie.