NATO to send 4,000 troops to border with Russia - report

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  1. AboveAlpha

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    I know.

    My Team recorded a great deal of such information as that was the reason we were there.

    It just breaks my heat and makes me angry as HELL that some people are trying to say it didn't happen.

    An example is a few members on this forum were trying to tell ME what happened at the Pristina Airport in Kosovo when a bunch of very young Russian Soldiers showed up as Russia wanted to get to the airport first but we had Teams there well before any Russian kid showed up.

    Now what I now say is FACT as I saw it happen.....the Russian's flew these kid's in as close as they could get them to the Pristina airport as they could not fly them directly to the airport as NATO was controlling the entire airspace all around it and it is a MIRACLE that Russian aircraft was not shot down!!!

    The Russian Soldier's and when I say kid's I mean KIDS as they looked like they were mostly 18 to 19 years old an a few of them looked to be 17.....they were dropped a long distance from the airport and they were ordered to get there as quickly as they could which was DAMN NEAR SUICIDE as they could have EASILY been mistaken for Serb Forces so the kids SMARTY took off their uniforms and bummed rides from locals.

    The damn Russian Military Leadership did not give a damn about these kids as they had absolutely NO WAY TO SUPPLY THEM!!!

    After a bunch of idiocy on both sides the kids were allowed into the airport and they had NO FOOD, NO WATER, NO MEDICAL, NO WAY TO BE RESUPPLIED.....but the Russian Leadership told these kids they were to occupy the Pristina Airport and under no circumstances were they to ask for help in any way from NATO or especially U.S. Forces.

    After a few days the Russian kids started getting very sick as they had DYSENTERY as they were drinking bad water from a ditch nearby and they had no food so they were all weak as hell.

    I had two of my Team bring them some MRE's and we brought them a 5 Gallon bucket of clean water but they refused so I went over as I speak Russian and I could see how sick they were and how much they were staring at the water and the MRE's but they still refused.

    Regular U.S. Forces did the same thing and I watched these kids get so sick I and U.S. Soldiers could no longer take watching them die and we latter learned that they were told that the punishment for accepting help from the American's was a bullet in the head.

    This issue went all the way up the chain of command until our Generals were talking with their Generals and a deal was made and British Forces were allowed to give the kids food, water and desperately needed medical help.

    NOW....I have had members on this forum tell me this never happened and that I was full of S#!#.....BUT I WAS THERE!!!!

    I know what happened!!!

    And if any member want's to read about it all they need to do is run a search and use the keywords....Pristina Airport British Soldiers supply Russian troops with food and water.

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  2. Jeannette

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    Did you ever think that there are people in this world who despise hypocrisy, deceit, manipulations, brain washing, calumny, and everything else sociopaths are prone to do. Or is that beyond your comprehension.
     
  3. ararmer1919

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    Yes. For instance we all despise you for all of those above mentioned things. You literally just described yourself in the perfect way.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What a desperate answer! Put a clean pinny on and go and do the washing up, or something. [​IMG]
     
  5. Sly Lampost

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    You are so dishonest it sometimes makes me cringe. What I mean is not the story of kids, which is immaterial in the bigger scheme of things, but rather the deeper story of how the Pristina Airport event came about due to American arrogance, intransigence and double dealing. Whereas the story you present has the underlying motive of painting the Russians negatively - but the truth is very different.

    It was the Russians who had convinced Yugoslavian President, Slobodan Milosevic, to end the war and in exchange they expected to police their own sector of Kosovo without NATO interference. NATO commander General Wesley Clark couldn't give a damn about that and immediately ordered 5000 NATO troops to block the Russian at the airport. The British commander, General Jackson declined this order, as was his right under the NATO charter, because he feared General Clark's rash decision could start a war with the Russians. In the end a deal was worked out where the Russians took control of the sector under the K-For, but were not answerable to NATO's chain of command, but to their own senior officers (see HERE, HERE and HERE)

    So once again, an arrogant gung-ho Yank (who's nickname amongst the Brits was the "perfumed prince") preferred to take the chance to start WWIII then deal rationally and intelligently to an understandable but volatile situation.

    We can, if you wish, go back (again) to the history of the end of the cold war and the major double-cross that American played on the Russians with a breach of promise about expanding NATO (even "an inch") to the east in exchange for the Soviets to agree to the US and German plea to allow the two German's to reunite?
     
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    I can't believe you're saying this Ararmer. Jeanette is not despicable. She honestly adheres to her view that today's US foreign policy is very badly flawed and that the American political class is completely corrupted and she no longer trusts them. You clearly disagree with this, but that's no reason to despise her - especially when a great many other Americans share her view.... many of them in the Pentagon.
     
  7. AboveAlpha

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    I am well are of the idiocy that occurred and I mention it.

    Still you do NOT send a bunch of kid's in without being able to supply them.

    They almost died.

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    Starvation, was it? :mrgreen:
     
  9. AboveAlpha

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    They were very hungry but it was the lack of fresh water and complete lack of medical care that almost killed them.

    I figured maybe a day or two before they started to drop.

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    And yet I read that they made it a whole two weeks on the supplies they brought with them.

    Thereafter they were supplied by the British. Their allies in this operation. Just as they were yours.
    Only you couldn't get over yourselves and gave it your big lets do WW3 routine.
    And essentially side-lined yourself from being any use.
    I don't believe there was any great political will for the US to be there. They weren't the primary contributors. It wasn't American led.
    Your allies asked you and you were as half hearted about it as the rest of them were.
    You came but you did not lead.

    So as one rational man to another, do you really think WW3 would look nicer or uglier than Bosnia?
    Do you really think WW3 is going to help the people of Ukraine? Because your dumb arsed general did.
    And he spoke like you, which is how he got to be General.
    So we learn the lesson of his mistake and I seek to share our perceptions of it with you.
     
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    They could never have made it 2 weeks.

    I cannot discuss anymore of the reason in detail as this is classified.

    And the Brit's were chosen as a 3rd party.

    Our Team and 3 others were at Pristina before anyone including the Brits got there.

    And the British are OUR ALLIES and if you were to say what you posted to any British SAS THEY WOULD LAUGH IN YOUR FACE!!

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    And yet they did make it two weeks.

    The British are your allies. As were the Russians. KFOR.


    No one will laugh harder at you than an SAS man. Your sort is not well loved by them.
    They have lived the life you so clearly fantasise about and I've yet to meet one who agree's with anything you've ever said. Odd that.
    In fact most of them just complain about being allied to America the whole time. That's about the level of it from the SAS.
    If you are looking for the respect of the SAS, I can tell you with no uncertainty. You do not have it. You will never get it.
     
  13. AboveAlpha

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    First of all I really don't care what you or anyone else might think as far as I am concerned as I know who and what I am.

    Secondly...you do not know.

    As another member just posted you have been proven wrong time and time again and when you posted to me what I was posting was B.S. I asked you to provide evidence to the contrary which you could not do.

    You talk about things and use your own opinion not facts.

    And you REFUSE to provide any evidence to support your posts.

    That really is all that needs to be said about you.

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  14. Baff

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    Yes, my opinion is opinion only, as are all your facts.

    If you want something proved to you, you can prove it to yourself or you can just keep wanting it.
    The only standard of proof you will accept is your own. So you will have to prove it to yourself or remain uncertain.
     
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    Proof and evidence can be supplied via link to a viable and unbiased source.

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    Baff Well-Known Member

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    I honestly believe that there are no sources that you would consider to be viable or unbiased unless they shared your existing prejudices.
    You already have those links. Feel free to prove more things to yourself.
     
  17. AboveAlpha

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    Most members know that is not me.

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  18. Baff

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    I'm not one of those, and the other responses you get in your posts haven't give me that same impression either. Quite the opposite.

    You are the guy other members call "Walter Mitty". "A fantasist".
     
  19. AboveAlpha

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    LOL!!!

    I still have no idea who that is.

    And considering that any member reading your posts can tell they are opinion I have no issue with it.

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  20. ararmer1919

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    1. She is not an American. You seriously can all just dropped the act. Everyone's opinion of you guys will literally remain unchanged. In fact we might actual respect you a little if you just started being honest about it.

    2. 1/4 of the American population is retarded. I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about who shares her opinions.

    3. She's completely earned the title. As she herself has proven over her time here. And I notice you attacking me for calling her things that SHE was calling everyone else who disagrees with her. See the hypocrisy?

    4. Why is it that you think that just because I don't share Jeans desire to see the US annihilated by nuclear fire and all 300+ million Americans slaughtered that I disagree with the idea that our foreign policy is wrong or that our politicians are corrupt? That's some pathtic thinking and really (*)(*)(*)(*) poor ddebate skills when just because someone isn't as extreme as you in your beliefs it must mean they are tools of the system that truth thier government completely or some bull(*)(*)(*)(*). It's stupid. For you information i detest my the government. I despise Obama and company. I do not nor have I ever trusted a politician. All politicians are corrupt. It comes with the job. Name one who isn't. (And for the love of God is if you say Putin...) and our current foreign policy is weak as (*)(*)(*)(*)ing hell and I am ashamed of it. So take your assumptions and lies and go somewhere else with them :)

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    What are you 12? You probably don't even know any regular soldiers let alone an SAS. Stop being so dumb.
     
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    Wow..Somebody's triggered :D
    Jeannette's a KGB plant. :nana:
     
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    I wasn't answering a question so not really sure you have any idea what's going on around here. Better get back to insulting wounded veterans in your home town.

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    KGB doesn't exist anymore. :roflol:
     
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    Have any proof of that, Ararmer? As I understand it she is of Greek descent living in the US who says she's American.

    I would put the figure far higher. With the bulk of them ignorant as well.

    Only in your twisted logic and perverted version of events. So yes, I do see your hypocrisy here. And I also see you casting your shadow about it too. But that's another matter altogether.

    4. Why is it that you think that just because I don't share Jeans desire to see the US annihilated by nuclear fire and all 300+ million Americans slaughtered that I disagree with the idea that our foreign policy is wrong or that our politicians are corrupt? That's some pathtic thinking and really (*)(*)(*)(*) poor ddebate skills when just because someone isn't as extreme as you in your beliefs it must mean they are tools of the system that truth thier government completely or some bull(*)(*)(*)(*). It's stupid. For you information i detest my the government. I despise Obama and company. I do not nor have I ever trusted a politician. All politicians are corrupt. It comes with the job. Name one who isn't. (And for the love of God is if you say Putin...) and our current foreign policy is weak as (*)(*)(*)(*)ing hell and I am ashamed of it. So take your assumptions and lies and go somewhere else with them :)[/quote]

    Why is it that you always see people who have views and perceptions that oppose yours to to be lies? There was a time - and not so long ago - when debate was something that two people could engage in intelligently and politely. But these days it has been turned into warfare where the only ideal is winning by any means possible. There's no intelligence in that at all.
     
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    I'm 46.
    How people perceive you, may not be the same as you perceive yourself.

    I'm happy to let people speak for themselves. If you wish to talk on behalf of the SAS, then carry on.
    It has been my experience that they have scant regard for the political opinions you offer.
    That their opinions very closely mimic the ones I have been presenting to you. If anything they are much harder on the US than I am. In conversations such as these, I typically find myself having to defend you against them. Much as I do the Russians vs you.
    Just saying.

    Did you think our most celebrated warriors would choose your world view over our own?
    If so, you haven't given it enough thought yet.

    Your opinions say loads about you and very little about the SAS.

    I can see that you feel more able to relate to them than you do me, but these are simply your prejudices. A preconception formed in the absence of any experience. And so I offer you correction. Illumination even.

    So here it is.
    I am significantly more pro-American than is normal in this country. If you get criticism from me you would do well to correctly recognise the bias that lies behind it.
     
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    Who is Walter Mitty? You should know, being so intimately acquainted with his methodology!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Mitty
     

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