The more nations have nukes, the stronger peace on the planet Earth

This is a scientific approach. Strange things become truth after some time. This is far more likely and easier understand then several parallel universes...

 

the more nations that have nukes, the more likely a nuclear war becomes

 

No, this is a chance to extend influence for Russia. Obama should arm with nukes Japan. American presidents would loose control over Europe, if Germany and France had nukes. The world would become a better place. Every nation would mind its own business and keep their own nukes.

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True, but this would be rather a regional nuclear war, very much educational one to prevent the global war.

 

You look in the future. It is going more and more difficult to keep nukes under control by great powers. Calculated risk of proliferation is better then playing with silly propaganda. During WWII both Germany and USSR had chemical weapons arsenals. Nevertheless, no one used it to the very end. Possibly, if a major war would break out, neither side would use nukes (?) Only small regional conflicts may show us devastating affects of nuclear weapon. This is what we can expect in the future.

 

Responsibility of a government and an ability to have nuclear weapon are some connected things. Nuclear weapon is a high tech weapon, it needs a certain level of idustry and hence educated people and developed society. That's not the case of the former Ukraine. After collapse of USSR this nation revealed complete unability to develop, it has the worst economic rate in the world, its statehood is based on the remnants of Soviet bureaucracy fitted to new capitalistic situation. It's European Congo now.

 

And where democracy was proliferated?

 

If some underdeveloped African country (or any country for that matter) desires to build a nuclear weapon and self-funds the effort in a legal way, then the United States has little to no right to interfere. Now, the use of those weapons is obviously a different story. But how would we like it if another nation told us what to do? It creates animosity; the key to peace is diplomacy and vigilance.

 

Ukraine is securely protected by Russia. Today's Bandera-nationalistic regime is a temporary phenomenon. However, in the rest of the world, nuclear capabilities will expand among nations and, as a result of it, peace will be more secure then now. People will not use nukes, but they will keep them and spend money on their preservation and renovation just to keep enemies at bay. "Leadership of the world" will be impossible, only cooperation.

 

I guess, it was Al-Qaida, ISIS and alike.

 

Yeah until ISIS figures out how to strap one to themselves and run into the middle of Europe and detonate it.

 

Can you give an example when one democracy would wage war against another?

 

No Muslim nation should ever be allowed to have nukes.

 

Pakistan has nukes. Funnily enough, pakistan is also a failed state. The government doesn't have control over the state, and some parts of the state is supporting terrorists.. They have the taliban and other groups inside their borders.. But they have nukes. This is quite disturbing.. it's amazing nothing has happened yet.

 

Indeed, nuclear weapons only serve as a deterrent because they are seen as a "deterrent", if they are seen as a common weapon then we would face an unprecedented situation. MAD will not expand through the expansion of nuclear weapons. Only chaos, massive bloodshed and possible damage to the planet would expand through the expansion of nuclear warheads.

 

Indeed. And one has to take into account human error. The USSr and US were close to killing us all because of human screw ups. if everyone had nukes, the risk of a screw up would go up many times.

 

Nuclear non-proliferation should be the goal of every nation. Hell, it should be the goal of every human being. I've always said that animals have a much better survival instinct than we do. Because for as much as humans are propelled by fear, we're also stunned into inaction by the same fear, it's incredibly profound and dumbfounding at the same time lol.

 

You have it under your very nose: the USA does it time again and again. Iran was a full fledged democracy, but British and USA reinstalled Shah. Russia became a democracy, but we are trying to break it apart. It appears the problem was not communism, it was geopolitics and insatiable greed. We support any crummy regime "in the interests of USA". Look at what is going on right now: https://www.facebook.com/RonPaulInstitute/?fref=nf

 

This is true, but screw ups are inevitable. The question is not if, it is when? As I wrote local conflicts with nukes are possible, but they are far better then nuclear war between superpowers. If ISIS had access to nukes, we would never use it as "instrument" for regime change. The conflict would never expand.

 

For everycountry with nukes, there is a certain % risk of screw up. if more countries have nukes the risk is higher. Why do you want that?

 

I compare local conflicts with major war with nukes. A small conflict with using nukes ("screw up") would be a sobering up factor in our entire foreign policy.

 

Both Russia and Iran are anything but democracies. And US has never waged any wars against them.

 

Iran had democratically elected president, but USA replaced him with Shah. We ended with mullah's ruling Iran. Do not listen corporate media propaganda, flip-flopping daily. Russia became democracy since blood less revolution done by Gorbachev and Yeltsin. Even American media had admitted that Putin had been elected as a result of democratic process and now he enjoys genuine support of his nation. ISIS is the worst hostile regime after Hitler. Nevertheless, Obama decided it was a good "instrument" for international politics.

 

No, a small conflict with nukes would spread and become a large conflict. There is no such thing as a small conflict when nukes are involved.

 

So can we assume if Trump wins the presidency America will be removed from you list of " responsible" countries.

 

Non nuclear weapons kill infinity more people than nukes. The focus on nukes is a red herring to divert attention from the real issue which is the role of governments in promoting weapon proliferation throughout the world .