Why are here so many topics about a "russian threat"?

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  1. MarkusS

    MarkusS New Member

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    Those who know me do know that i´m very critical about russia and putin but what i must read here starts to get more laughable evry day.

    As an italian i dont see russia as any threat at all. Its a trade partner and part of europe.

    The real enemy is muslims (yes i said it, islam is the enemy of the free world booohoo political correctness idiots).

    So why is it that i must read constantly how dangerous putin is while the americans set the entire middle east at flame and created so many problems for italy and europe as a whole?

    I´m thankful that Putin helps Assad in Syria. Im thankful Palmyra got rescued. And i´m thankful for evry (*)(*)(*)(*)ty sunni mosque being blown to hell. I´m also glad that US influence is pushed back worldwide.

    Putin isnt a problem for Europe. Muslims and Americans are.
     
  2. Pronin24

    Pronin24 New Member

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    MarkusS, I often opposed your statements, but, at this time, I am 100% with you.
     
  3. vis

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    There so many topics about Russian threat, Markus, because Obama puts Russia as a main threat to humankind. More, than ISIS or other muslim terrorist organisations. And our liebe Frau Merkel and Co being vassals of the US have no other choice as to support this rediculous political line. Indeed the presence of Americans in Europe and in ME creates a lot of chaos.
     
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    Because many on this forum are suffering from an inferiority complex. US is losing its global influence. In addition, the United States is approaching a crisis and people have additional problems. To distract them from these problems, US policymakers need an enemy. They chose Putin for the role. The propaganda of the Western media makes believe Americans in "cruel and aggressive Russia."

    If we talk about cannibals and savages, who are now filled in the EU - that is a consequence of the actions of western politicians. Of course, the main culprit is the United States, but EU leaders are to blame for not less. Remember - The French, British, Germans, Italians bombed Libya. Not only the United States.
    It is they who destroyed the richest country in Africa. And turn it into a hotbed of terrorists. It is they who have provoked refugee flows. This they removed the cordon, which provided Gaddafi.....
    All West rejoiced civil war in Syria. Western politicians clapping and screaming - "Assad must go"....Now comes the reckoning for slavish obedience to US policies.
    Moreover, Europeans still do not understand that this is only the beginning.... Will More terrorist attacks are across Europe. Crazy fanatics want to build a European caliphate.
     
  5. vis

    vis Well-Known Member

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    Let me make a little correction. Germany did not bomb Libya. They did not approve the military intervention:
    http://www.dw.com/ru/немецкая-позиц...лась-при-голосовании-в-совбезе-оон/a-14924652
     
  6. Pronin24

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    Obama is very much ignorant in international affairs, a typical narrow minded American. He financed and armed the worst antihuman regime after Hitler in history. Actually, he was not well qualified to be a president. He run, as he said, on the "alternative". Now it seems we are in a much better situation. Donald Trump is coming.
     
  7. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those posters have an agenda. Some are trolls who hate Russia because of where their grandparents came from...such as Poland, Lithuania, Western Ukraine or were under persecution in Russia. Some are also paid by the CIA or criminals like Khadorovsky to help overthrow the present government in Russia, and they are trying to do it through psychological warfare, lies and propaganda. The purpose is to break up Russia and do what they did to Ukraine so they can steal its wealth before it challenges American hegemony.

    Many of those who advise Washington are psychopaths and believe in a one world order. They follow Trotsky and believe in perpetual warfare to achieve their end result of world domination.. This is why our government creates chaos wherever it goes.

    All those American NGO's throughout the world are supported by the CIA and George Soros, and they strive for regime changes whenever a leader of a nation doesn't support Washington. Notice what they just did to Brazil, and they are creating big trouble in the Balkans now to keep China and Russia from influencing them through investments. Unless Trump beats Clinton and manages to change American policy, you can expect wars, wars and more wars.

     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And that dear OP is why.
     
  9. Il Ðoge

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    I have to wonder if "Muscovy" [sic] is a slur and violates forum rules, I see it every time I log into the forum. I'm baffled they haven't banned that guy, he's incoherent, hateful and contributes nothing.
     
  10. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He's following the Nazi racist line of the Gallacians in Western Ukraine, who were under Poland and not Russia. They want to believe they are the real Russians since the original capital was in Kiev. They think that by calling Russia Moscovy they are insulting them, since in their racist mentality they see only themselves as being pure Russians, while those who call themselves Russian today, are mixed with Mongolians.

    Frankly I like the name Moscovy, it's so medieval. What the Gallacians who he supports can't realize, is that if Ukraine was to take the name Russia, then the name would mean nothing... since it's the people living in a country that give a name clout, and not the name of the country that gives the people clout.

    I wouldn't concern myself too much about him, he might need the money.
     
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    The same reason why Russians make so many threads about the "maniac canables" in the the US. For every thread made that is critical about Russia there are 2 made that are just pure anti American hate speech or in many cases just threads about how they want to destroy the US with a nuclear attack. Why start a thread complaining about the threads made about the "Russian threat" without addressing the other half of the story?
     
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    Yes, there are many leftist/socialist/anarchist/anti-American threads here.

    Just a lot of jealous people.
     
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    Stupid is not just Obama. For example, Reagan created Al Qaeda. Clinton - War in the center of Europe and the establishment of the Albanian traffickers in human organs and Kosovar terrorists. About Bush, I'm not going to talk. This is a fantastic idiot....In the US, a reasonable person can not be president.
    For example, in the US there is a cult of personality A. Lincoln. But few Americans know what he really was.
    Americans are taught that Lincoln was the savior of the republic and the man who freed the slaves. But Lincoln did not care about slaves.
    In his first inaugural address, Lincoln promised to support a constitutional amendment, which has already been approved by the Chamber of Representatives and the Senate. This amendment prohibits the federal government from interfering with slavery in the southern states. Lincoln not only supported the amendment, in fact it was Lincoln orchestrated passage of this amendment. After his election, he instructed his Secretary of State to conduct an amendment through the Senate. Lincoln was willing to sanctify slavery - Constitution.
    (Corwin Amendment. The amendment was adopted but has not been ratified because the southern states did not want to remain in the United States in spite of the proposed changes in the constitution that legalized the institution of slavery.)
    The purpose of the war - not cancellation slavery. The purpose of the war was, as it proclaimed the Lincoln, the invasion of southern states to destroy the movement for secession from the United States and "save the Union." The number of killed - 650,000 - was it necessary? Now Present US population is 10 times greater than during the Civil War, and if we translate it to the present-day population, this would be equivalent to 5 or 6 million dead. Lincoln had to kill so many people, to "save the Union"? But I do not agree with the statement of "save the Union" because the union was voluntary. The Union was established as a voluntary, but after 1865 he ceased to be voluntary. Lincoln deprived individual states the right to secede from the United States.
    Lincoln was a clever political manipulator. But what is a clever political manipulator? This is a liar and a conspirator.
    Besides Lincoln was corrupt. For example. There is an old book, published in 1920 and recently reprinted, "Lincoln and railways." Lincoln was a lawyer all major railway companies in the Midwest. Lincoln bought the land in Iowa in 1857. After he was elected president almost the first thing he did was convened a special session of Congress and held the law, buyout gave the President the power to determine the eastern transcontinental road terminal. What does he choose? Just land, which he owned.....
    But this is one of the most respected US presidents. What can you say about the others? :smile:
     
  15. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    Because Russia threatens europe? duh?

    Have you seriously not heard of the threats they've made? Or maybe you dismiss them because some bs excuse?
     
  16. Jeannette

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    They are not threats. Russia doesn't make threats, they consider it a weakness. They give a warning once and then if it is not heeded, they will follow it through. The warning Russia has given is that they will use every means they have at their disposal if their survival is at stake.

    Russia wants Washington to know exactly what they have in their arsenal, so they can think twice before making any stupid moves.
     
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    The only American threat to Europe would be if we pulled our 65,000 troops out and took our weapons out. Then the girl scouts could probably over run the place before the Islamic people took over.

    :roflol:
     
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    Oh please. Enough of this dribble. We're tired of it. At least have the self decency to call it what it is.
     
  19. Mrbsct

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    Give me a break. Russia just expanded South Ossentian borders right into an BP oil pipeline in Georgia. The Russians control South Ossetia and can draw it's borders as it please. The Georgian War is over, why are you are expanding annexation?
    [video=youtube;bv00Weif0Sw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv00Weif0Sw[/video]
     
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    Deflection from the Muslim threat.
     
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    yeh, my friend, you was just a step from became the Italian soviet socialistic republic in 1945-6. Koba/Stalin gave weapons, terrorist experts, money to your "communists" , who were the biggest party in Italy. i wish you to spend just one day in this Stalin Italy , then we will talk. and remind me how weak , and sun loving Italians did in GULAG ? as far as i remember your death rate was 90%, right? and very low status in that cannibalistic environment, not even close to what UPA, The Forest Brothers , The Black cat anti - Stalinist heroes have had in GULAG... not good set up for you guys...yes mr Putler is just a dwarf version of Koba ,and you think Putin will not reaching your home , but if you are wrong? what do you think?
     
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    Muslims are definitely the true threat, but to say the West vs Russia thing going on is all on the USA is either ignorant or proof you simply hate America.


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    Come on ararmer, didn't you know?

    When Russians say they will hurt you it is a warning.

    And when America says so it is a threat.

    Haven't you learned this?
     
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    Interesting. When did Obama put Russia as "a main threat to humankind"?

    Please cite the instances when he said that.
     
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