People have lost hope': young Austrians on the rise of the far right

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No your point is that you either do not know what you are talking about or you are pretending you do not in order to encourage people .

    Lets see what Europe means by far right

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics

    Just so you know what we are talking about.

    This particular party has it's roots in Nazism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Party_of_Austria

    The other party I mentioned, Golden Dawn, is hailed by Stormfront as being the 'real thing' and by that they mean genuine National Socialists.

    The recession and the humanitarian disaster in the ME causing mass refugees is obviously a godsend to people like yourself to try to get uneducated people on your side.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/26/far-right-europe-election_n_5391873.html
     
  2. FreshAir

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    all countries are blaming the wrong people, the corps are sending your jobs overseas.... things will only get worse until the real issues are addressed
     
  3. Jack Links

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    Ideological subversion of the host countries. They wish to destroy Western Culture with guilt trips as silencing tactics. But it's not working anymore. People are out of work, and our lives and cultures are being threatened by invaders.
     
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    I can't believe the stupidity or naivete of Merkel. The agreement she signed with the Turks put them in charge of who will stay in Turkey and who will go. Now the Germans are complaining that the ones being sent to Europe are sick or uneducated migrants ...(probably terrorists), and the highly educated refugees are being kept in Turkey.

    For heaven sake Erdogan is destroying the Kurd towns with tanks and killing them off, so did Merkel really think that Erdogan would do differently? :wall:
     
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    Well it was a good attempt at diversion wasn't it! Pathetic, but er, well-intentioned! Merkel has much to answer for by broadcasting how welcome they'd be. I'll bet the jihadists couldn't believe their luck. Oh well it's too late now - que sera sera.
     
  6. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We did have, but not any more - it has been taken away from us by the 'useful idiots' aka liberals.
     
  7. PolakPotrafi

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    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Eh? The Austro-Hungarian Empire was the opposite. It was dominated by the Austrians and they more or less ruled supreme. Only when the Empire was disintegrating did they create a dual monarchy and they did this as two more or less separate states. Their armies were terrible and had major language problems with officers who couldn't talk to their soldiers until they also tried to reform the army.
    In general the Austrio-Hungarian Empire was a text book example of how NOT to create a multicultural state.
     
  9. PolakPotrafi

    PolakPotrafi Banned

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    He is correct though, Austria - Hungary had not only German Austrians, and Hungarians, but also Slavs, Jews, and Gypsies.
     
  10. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As subjects with no rights and the Austrians tried to force uniformity on them risking civil war almost for the entirety of the states existence. It was not a multicultural state as much as a people ruling over other people. Something that most European states did at some point or another. When the dual monarchy was created it did not really change that.
    A better example of a multicultural European state would be Roger's Sicily.
     
  11. PolakPotrafi

    PolakPotrafi Banned

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    Definitely still multiculturalism, and a prime example of the chaotic failure of multiculturalism.
     
  12. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No... It is the failure of a small state to rule over a large area with diverse populations that resisted their forcible attempt at changing them and ruling them.
    This is also the time of the advent of nationalism and all the cultural battles they entailed.

    I have seen your posts and know you probably want to use this in your racist ideology. Unfortunately for you your knowledge of history seems lacking.
    Did you look in to Roger II? Now that's a successful multicultural state. Of course that can't be used in your racist agenda so I guess you'll pretend it doesn't exist.
     
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    PolakPotrafi Banned

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    Poland tried "allied" multiculturalism with Jews in the Statute of Kalisz, and Lithuanians in the Union of Lublin, and today Jews, and Lithuanians are 2 of the most anti-Polish people I've encountered.

    Both groups killed Polish in WW2, Lithuanians in the Ponary Massacre, and Jews in the Skidel Revolt.

    Multiculturalism is God awful.
     
  14. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep... That looks like a reasonable way to conclude that that multiculturalism is good or bad.
    Creating a connection between events that happened 500 years apart seems a bit far fetched.

    I think we can just conclude your historical knowledge is sketchy and biased by your ideology and move on.
     
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    We can learn a lot from history? [​IMG]
     
  16. PolakPotrafi

    PolakPotrafi Banned

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    Oh, but looking at Roger's Sicily of over 900 years ago, which such multiculturalism no longer exists in Sicily isn't far fetched?
     
  17. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course. Why would you think otherwise?
     
  18. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not trying to connect events centuries apart. I gave an example of a successful multicultural state. In the middle ages no less which is pretty cool. Should be a lesson to all of us in today's world.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_II_of_Sicily
     
  19. cerberus

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    Your post to PolakPotrafi seemed to have a negative overtone. Maybe I should have read back further into your discussion with him. As you were!!
     
  20. PolakPotrafi

    PolakPotrafi Banned

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    Most examples of multiculturalism are that of failure.

    So much so, that most modern conflicts have come from multiculturalism.

    Hutu vs Tutsi in Rwanda.

    Serbs vs Muslim Bosniaks / Muslim Albanians.

    Janjaweed vs Dinka in Darfur.

    Ukrainian vs Russian in Donbass.

    ISIS Sunnis vs Shiites, Christians, and Jews in Syria, and Iraq.
     
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    All those refugee stories were started by USA and NATO, messing in the Middle East.
     
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    I have often said that cultures cannot be mixed. They're a part of the human condition.

    More wise words from cerberus! :cool:
     
  23. PolakPotrafi

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    So successful that such multiculturalism simply doesn't exist in Sicily today?

    Really?
     
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    PolakPotrafi, multiculturalism cultivated from above is a failure, but it is normal, if developed naturally. This is why attempts to alienate Ukraine and Russia will fail. In this part of the world, troubles were created from above by intervention of USA and NATO.
     
  25. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We could list the failures and successes for a few pages but what would that conclude? We are to learn from the mistakes and successes of others. Succesful multicultural states have existed and they usually produced the best art, science and culture whenever and wherever they existed. Our job is to adapt to our world and learn from those experiences.

    Or we can be racists.
     

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