Do you really want and would you accept a supernatural God?

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  1. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Do you really want and would you accept a supernatural God?

    Man has sought God forever and we Gnostic Christians are dedicated to perpetually seeking God. God as defined as the best rules and laws to live life by. When we find God, we set it aside, raise the bar of excellence and seek anew. That is how we evolve our thinking and laws. Secularism does this without calling what they are doing as seeking God and that is why secular law is superior to the laws on any theology that we know.

    If a supernatural God ever popped up, he would either come to lead or follow. A supernatural God would be either our master or our slave and serve us.

    If a supernatural God would come to be our master, that would make us slaves to him and God would be what most would call a tyrant. Things would be his way or death to the opposition.

    If a supernatural God came to serve, he would effectively end human evolution as he would take all our hard tasks away from us, at our request of course. That God would effectively kill all of our reasons to live and create the most boring world you can imagine.

    I think that Gnostic Christians would reject any supernatural God for the reason given above and if straddled with such a God, we would seek to kill him.

    Would you kill a supernatural God or would you accept to be a slave to God or have a God be your slave and effectively end your mental evolution?

    Regards
    DL
     
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    God, at least when referring to the biggest one, or the only one, is omnipotent and all knowing so you can't possibly kill him nor enslave him. All we do is following his rule even when we think we are opposing him, we are still acting under his influence and power. You can't fail him.
     
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    If all powerful, he sure is not showing off just as he is not showing up.

    If he cannot shoe himself, then we can ignore him.

    I do not want to live under a tyrant and have a bullet with his name on it if he ever does show himself.

    Humanity is worth my sacrifice if he happens to be bullet proof. No God should be allowed to end mankind's evolution and freedom of though and actions.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    If the God was good and belief in said God were a bennifit to me then ya, I would accept the God. If the God were evil I would reject it even if the consequence were dire.
     
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    To me, God or god(s) is just a colloquial way of saying a Supreme Divinity. It's a concept. In an 'Omniverse' of 12 possible dimensions, us humans are wired in 3D only. I'll err on the side of caution and say such a concept may exist.
     
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    God is both. He came to earth in the humbleness to serve us and we also serve him but we are not slaves in his eyes we are his children. He is both a servant and a master, and I don't what gnostic is but no theology is superior to another because theology is just man kind dissecting and separating God's truth. Within Christianity alone there are hundreds of denominations withing those denominations there are thousands of different doctrines within those thousands of doctrines there are millions of of views and beliefs and different understanding of those doctrines and not a single on 100% holds the absolute truth.

    if one wants to know what and who God is they must first seek him out otherwise they will only know what they perceive him to be
     
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    You contradicted yourself. You said "not a single one 100% hold the truth", then immediately after said "they must seek him out else they will only what they perceive him to be". So ... no one can know him, but if you seek him you'll know him. Which is it?
     
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    I'm wondering why there are only two god settings ... master or slave. Could there not also be 'sports fan'?

    What I mean is, could the god not be simply a watcher? One which doesn't intervene, like a wildlife researcher who studies and takes notes but doesn't stop the lion killing the gazelle. Neither master nor slave, but effectively student ... for purposes not related to our welfare, nor necessarily even this planet.

    I get that this type of god gives no reason to 'kill' it, but it could be disliked. Equally it could be respected.
     
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    Hmmm,...
    Realty is rather a supernatural thing for us right now.

    All things are possible, according to the Natural Laws observed by Reality.
    Anything can unfold in the future.
    We must discover the Truth as best we can, so we can live forever with a Reality we have come to understand better.

    But it is a strange thing this Reality.
    That is why we study it in Science.

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    The science says we must adapt to hollow Reality's changes or become extinct.
    That's a hell hole.

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    Ignore Reality,... and the Facts-of-Life will start educating you...

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    You must still live in Reality,... even if you believe in a Fantasy World that is not Reality.
     
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    ... but you agree that sane people live in Reality,... right?

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    Seek Truth, it describes the Reality.
     
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    If a GOD existed and this is it's idea of a plan....then I would have a lot of nasty words to say to such a stupid GOD.

    AA
     
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    The truth about Reality is that it does "kill" us all,... doesn't it?

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    Teaching humans to rely upon Truth,... in order to understand this all powerful Reality,... that idea you oppose?
     
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    I appose the notion of worshiping a possible GOD that is so bad at it's job!!

    FIRE IT'S ASS!!

    AA
     
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    it's Oppose. just helpin out :)

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    whatto ?
     
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    LOL!

    Thanks.

    AA
     
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    We have been building up great empires and kingdoms for 4000 years now, but they get tron down and we must start over again.
    The Bible is telling us why this happens.

    That means the truth can set us free of this cycle of events.
     
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    That is your belief.

    It is not fact however.

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    Here is a report by a Sociologist which says what I tell you has been happening:


    THE FATE OF EMPIRES and SEARCH FOR SURVIVAL
    Sociologist: Sir John Glubb
    The seven stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:

    1) The Age of Pioneers (outburst)
    2) The Age of Conquests
    3) The Age of Commerce
    4) The Age of Affluence
    5) The Age of Intellect
    6) The Age of Decadence.
    7) The Age of Revolts or invasion.

    Decadence is marked by: I Defensiveness, (against possible invaders) II] Pessimism, (as cynicism is the major humor today) III] Materialism, ($) IV] Frivolity, (Feminism arises) V] An influx of foreigners, (Mexico) VI] The Welfare State, ($ 1 Trillion dollars annually) VII] A weakening of religion, (50% attendance at churches). "

    http://www.newworldeconomics.com/archives/2014/092814_files/TheFateofEmpiresbySirJohnGlubb.pdf
     
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    what i was saying is that not a single denomination not a single doctrine not a single believer holds the complete truth faith and the bond and relationship with God is one that is always strived for is always worked on yet never prefected and true enough we can seek him out for a thousands years and yet still only know a part of him because he is that vast. But I don't see it as a bad thing for me it just means there is that much more enjoy there is that much more og the adventure to experience
     
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    Sane people and who and what is a sane person is in the eye of the beholder, simply because Christians believe in an invisible all powerful and all knowing God we are seen as insane crazy out of our minds, and christian or not a simple disagreement in a heated debate makes people think the ones who are against them are insane. In this day and age sane people are not as easily detected because the description of it differs greatly among different people.
     
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    No argument on your last.

    Would that good God you accept be there to serve you or to have you serve it?

    If to serve it, that would make you a slave. If it would serve you, then that would likely spoil your evolution and growth.

    What are your views on both scenarios?

    Regards
    DL
     
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    He who sits on fence get picket up ass.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    He who thinks he knows better, doesn't.
     
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    You say we are God's children.

    Why did God murder his first two children by neglect and forcibly keeping them from the tree of life which would have saved them?

    This is analogous to J Ws letting their children die from lack of a blood transfusion.

    Both situations are of poor parenting and quite immoral. Right?

    Regards
    DL
     
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    A watcher is not owed respect and yes, we only have two choices with bible and Qur'an Gods.

    God's way or hell.

    We have no choice but to kiss his ass or burn.

    Regards
    DL
     

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