Hilary is Finished

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  1. Fallen

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    "Significant security risks": State Department says Clinton violated email security rules


    Hillary Clinton violated federal records rules by never obtaining permission to conduct official business on private email server during her tenure as secretary state, a State Department audit concluded.
    The report from the State Department’s inspector general say mentions “longstanding, systemic weaknesses” in the agency’s communications even before Clinton took office there, but it singles her out as having been a particularly bad offender for her exclusive use of private, unsecured email.

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    "Secretary Clinton had an obligation to discuss using her personal email account to conduct official business with their offices, who in turn would have attempted to provide her with approved and secured means that met her business needs" says the audit, which was first obtained by Politico.

    “At a minimum, Secretary Clinton should have surrendered all emails dealing with Department issues before leaving government service and, because she did not do so, she did not comply with the Department's policies that were implemented in accordance with the Federal Records Act," the report continued.

    The 78-page report is the culmination of a review prompted by last year’s revelations that Hillary Clinton conducted official business on a private email server, rather than the secured government servers that officials are expected to use, during her four years in the Obama administration.

    The inspector general states that its findings are based on interviews with Secretary of State John Kerry, and predecessors Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice and Madeleine Albright.

    Clinton and her deputies, including Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin, declined the inspector general’s request for interviews, Politico reported.

    The report said that State Department workers are required to use "agency-authorized information systems to conduct normal day-to-day operations" because the use of other systems "creates significant security risks."

    The inspector general went on to recommend that the State Department remind employees that the use of personal email accounts to conduct official business is “discouraged in most circumstances,” and improved policies to promote compliance by all employees – including the secretary of state. The State Department’s management concurred with these recommendations.

    “While people were aware of her use of personal email, no one had a full and complete understanding of the extent,” said the State Department's representative Mark Toner. “We acknowledge that we need to do a better job with our record keeping.”

    Clinton campaign spokesman Brian Fallon responded to the report on Wednesday, saying that the report actually showed that Clinton’s practices were consistent with previous secretaries of state.

    “[A]s this report makes clear, Hillary Clinton’s use of personal email was not was not unique, and she took steps that went much further than others to appropriately preserve and release her records," Fallon said.


    Clinton herself made the same argument in a March debate. However, Politifact found that statement to be “mostly false.”

    However, the State Department has apparently made progress in its record keeping systems.

    “Any email that [Secretary Kerry] sends is automatically copied and saved automatically," the agency's Deputy Spokesman said at a press briefing. "This automatic archiving approach does comply with the Federal Records Act.”

    The audit is only one part of a much larger controversy. Clinton, who is the likely Democratic presidential nominee, is currently under investigation by the FBI for potentially putting highly sensitive information at risk, a fact that has become an important talking point in the election.

    Clinton has contended that since most of her emails were sent to other people in the state department, she was complying with the federal law requiring the preservation of government records.

    Though the FBI’s investigation is still ongoing, the inspector general’s audit casts doubt on this defense, saying that sending emails to other State Department accounts “is not an appropriate method of preserving any such emails that would constitute a federal record.”

    Clinton’s use of a private email account came to light in 2013, when a hacker going by the name of Guccifer accessed the email account of her aide Sydney Blumenthal. The hacker, whose real name is Marcel Lazar, pleaded guilty to various hacking-related offenses on Wednesday.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    she will likely become our next President.

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    I majored in marketing/advertising as an undergrad. It would be so easy to put a few devastating clips together to show how evil she is. She's told so many big whoppers. And now there's definite criminal activity to discuss.

    This is a lay up for anyone experienced in politics and the media. Hopefully the Republicans don't blow this opportunity like they've done in the past.
     
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    No one really cares about this but the pundit class and right wing radio audiences. If the election were about honesty in public statements, the tally would be Trump 95% lies, Clinton 10-20% lies. The holier than thou folks need to take a look at their own candidate first before claiming victory. If the GOP had selected someone of more moderate views with a temperament fitted for office, this could be a toss up election. But they decided to vote for Archie Bunker, this aggression will not stand man.
     
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    For a woman who has been 'finished' every day for the last year according to right wing lackeys, she's surprisingly resilient. I wonder if old age is setting in and you righties need these threads to remind yourself of what to be scared/ outraged at for the day. They need some safe spaces in nursing homes.
     
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    Nah, the right wing doesn't understand that for the left wing, it doesn't matter if Hillary lied or broke the law.
     
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    No. She is not finished. There are a lot of dumb people to vote for her. There are a lot of dumb people to vote for Trump either. Two-party American system outlived its usefulness, now it is just an instrument to provide voters (ochlos in older spelling) with a feeling of participation in political life of a system made for oligarchs.
     
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    Whatever credibility the right ever had vanished with the nomination of trump.
     
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    Both Hillary and Trump have, shall we say, ethics issues. I've compared Trump with Krusty the Clown, someone who will sell the use of his name for any commercial purpose. The problem is that Trump wasn't in a position of public trust; however, Hillary was as a Senator, Secretary of State, or principal in the Clinton Foundation. The Dems continued support of Hillary is akin to a Repub continued support of Nixon. The Right largely abandoned Nixon when his true nature became clear, the Left has rallied around Hillary. This difference really says a lot, and one could argue is a root cause of American decline.

    What kills me is Hillary's "there was no successful hack" defense. It's not whether or not damage was done, but rather an unnecessary risk was taken. Imagine getting pulled over for speeding and saying, cool your jets Officer, no one was hurt. No harm no foul isn't a defense for speeding, and it isn't a defense for Hillary.
     
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    If you are asking nominees to be perfect, you will always be disappointed. This insane persecution of public figures drives people from service.
     
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    No where did I claim to be expecting perfection. That doesn't not mean that we can't expect good enough.
     
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