Trump Supporters Should Read Jack Quinn's Novel "Running for President"

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  1. tomander7020

    tomander7020 Well-Known Member

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    <Rule 3>I just finished reading Jack Quinn's novel "Running for President" in which a psychopath is elected president of the United States. The book is very timely given today's political situation. It's obvious that the author borrowed (plagiarized?) many of the protagonist's personality traits from the USA's best-known psychopath, Donald Trump. However, the protagonist is a crooked car dealer rather than a crooked real estate developer.

    I think if some Trump supporters would read this book <Rule 3> they would change their minds about supporting a psychopath for president of the USA with a finger on the nuclear trigger.
     
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    I wonder if big government types are able to connect the terror they feel over the potential for a psychopath to gain control of the reigns to the dangers of large central governments?
     
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    What dangers to large centralized DEMOCRATIC governments have exactly?
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One might think that knowing the difference between fiction and non-fiction would be a far more preferable trait in voters...
     
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    Unless there is a Constitution protecting minority rights. Got another one?
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The constitution does not protect rights within a democracy.

    Were you not aware?

    The American system of government is a republic. Changes to the original system to make the process more reliant on democratic decision making have not yet turned us into a democracy, thank goodness. But that has not stopped advocates for centralized authority from advocating for expanded centralized power on behalf of the majority. Funny how the constitution is so selectively applied.

    So that does once again bring us to my question regarding the scope of the authority we grant these representatives.
     
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    By that definition, minority rights are not protected in America either because 2/3rds of the population could choose to vote them away via an amendment.
     
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    Interesting that I very often refer to Trump as a used car dealer.
     
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    citation needed.

    There is no process by which 2/3 of the population can directly amended the constitution.

    Article 5 appropriates this responsibility to 2/3 of both houses of congress or two thirds of the legislatures of the states.

    Originally the senate was comprised of representatives of the state legislatures, which added an additional layer of insulation against direct democracy.
     
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    So 2/3rds of representatives get together, they can vote away the rights of the other 1/3rd.

    How is that any better?
     
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    Go to the website http://www.sociopathicstyle.com/psychopathic-traits/ for a list of the traits of a psychopath. Donald Trump has every single one of those traits.
     
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    Madison provides insight:

    http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed10.asp

    A cliff notes version of Madison's position for any that might be communicationally challenged:

     
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    It will be interesting to see how Diehard supporters like Alex Jones and his
    Cult will handle Trump associations.I mean,the Jonestown Radio talker's cult
    has nothing ever good say about Henry Kissinger.Nixon's prized Secretary-of-State.
    Now you've got Nixon guy Roger Stone having the Jones fans eating out of his
    hand.Like feeding zoo animals.
     
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    Are you operating under the delusion that the only form of democracy is direct democracy?

    Representative democracy is a thing. And it's also what America has been ever since the majority was enfranchised by allowing women to vote.
     
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    The people in Benghazi, actually died.
    The leader of Libya was actually killed, sodomized with a knife.
    The 12 year old girl with the bloody panties that Hillary laughed over and defamed was actually raped by a 42 year old man.
    Yet in your mind, Trump is the psycho and Hillary is perfectly normal.
     
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    And I suppose you could direct me to another site that shows Hillary Clinton and Mother Theresa are on a list of Angels together. Get real Dude! Bad as you think Trump may be in your head, you're not offering up anyone desirable on your side. You're trying to make a case that Trump is some kind of psychopath, with some bullcrap list of "traits", but you ignore just how blatant and obvious a Criminal that Hillary actually is.

    At least Trump has a track record of success that we can fall back on. What/Where is Hillary's success? She's never been in the private sector, she has no idea what it is to swim in open water. I run my own business, contract manufacturing for energy and aerospace, and I at least admire that Trump made his money through competition, not cronyism like Hillary.
     
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    At some point do you plan on addressing the ironic fear of a nutcase in charge of the vast authority commanded by the American Federal government as it is currently? Or do you simply intend to continue to change the subject?
     
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    I'm not changing the subject. I'm addressing a post made in this thread. The Right seems to have this problem of not being able to tell that democratic government are distinctly different than tyrannies.
     
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    And a track record of bankruptcies and a track record of being sued by his suppliers for non-payment. He's tied up in court now for a small matter (by Trump standards) of stiffing a small businessman for around $30,000 in paint for one of his construction projects. Of course, Trump runs with the big rich guys and despises the common people. He's made that clear over and over in his published remarks.If cheating the little guy is defined as success, then I agree that we must call Trump successful.
     
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    How clever of you. How do you call Hillary? Used wife, I guess?
     
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    It does not matter what you say. Trump is supported because he is anti-establishment. Too bad democrats are too chicken to go with Sanders. The least democratic democratic party in the world.
     
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    I call her to get out of the way and let a true statesman, Senator Sanders run against the used car salesman.
     
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    No I prefer to see if you can actually list the traits with their examples. According to the website you also fit that. See how easy it is to make your claim.
     
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    Unfortunately your fellow dems dont care what you think, you will support Hillary whether you dems like it or not. Shes your pick. This thinking for yourself while democrat is cure and all but lets face it, you need to do what the dnc tells you to do....and sadly you will. Amiright?
     
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    Well, most of it should be self-evident, and the list is very long, but I'll go with a few and skip most in the interest of brevity.

    1. Glib and superficial charm. -- surely no one would deny that that fits Trump
    2. Grandiose self-worth -- Trump is constantly bragging about what a superior person he is.
    6. Lack of remorse or guilt -- I've never heard him apologize for anything including failure to pay suppliers, insults to Mexicans, women, Muslims, etc.
    11. Promiscuous sexual behavior -- in addition to his multiple marriage, Trump delights in bragging about his sexual conquests.
    13. Lack of realistic, long-term goals -- he has no well-thought-out goals for the country or even for his campaign. His unrealistic promises include build a wall and make Mexico pay for it. I'm sure you can list many more.
    14. Impulsivity -- He's know for spouting off whatever comes into his head.
    16. Failure to accept responsibility for own actions -- I've never heard him admit that his many failures in business were his fault. He always sees himself as the victim.
    17. Many short-term martial relationships -- speaks for itself.

    Well, I think that list makes the point. I will take seriously any logical rebuttal. Name calling and insults will not make your point.
     

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