Why are here so many topics about a "russian threat"?

The list would be several pages long. I don't have the time for that and you wouldn't care anyway.

 

There was zero difference between british, germans or italians.

The british treated our POW as bad as anyone. They even used italian POW to remove landmines. Which was a war crime back then as it is today.

 

There weren't any landmines in Britain. No Italians cleared mines here.
My bet is any you cleared were the ones you had laid.

 

I've been thinking about that theory, and it does have a certain portent. What's needed is for some natural cataclysm to threaten us, such as a gigantic asteroid headed our way, and it'd give us something else to think about, and at the same time make us realise how puny we are. in the scheme of things

 

Because Russians cannot exist, as a power factor, without the mongols, lion head statures, and the mongols are in every miter of every king or lord, the same. It was as they vanished under Tatar(Muslim) empire but it was otherwise rising and climbing important skies of the states, not only in the Asia.

 

TO THE SLANDERERS OF RUSSIA

Why rave ye, babblers, so — ye lords of popular wonder?
Why such anathemas ‘gainst Russia do you thunder?
What moves your idle rage? Is’t Poland’s fallen pride?
‘T is but Slavonic kin among themselves contending,
An ancient household strife, oft judged but still unending,
A question which, be sure, you never can decide.
For ages past still have contended,
These races, though so near allied:
And oft ‘neath Victory’s storm has bended
Now their, and now our side.
Which shall stand fast in such commotion
The haughty Liakh, or faithful Russ?
And shall Slavonic streams meet in a Russian ocean? –
Or il’t dry up? This is point for us.

Leave us!: Your eyes are all unable
To read our history’s bloody table;
Strange in your sight and dark must be
Our springs of household enmity!
To you the Kreml and Prága’s tower
Are voiceless all, you mark the fate
And daring of the battle-hour
And understand us not, but hate.

What stirs ye?
Is it that this nation,
On Moscow’s flaming walls, blood-slaked and ruin-quench’d,
Spurn’d back the insolent dictation
Of Him before whose nod ye blenched?
Is it that into dust we shatter’d,
The Dagon that weigh’d down all earth so wearily,
And our best blood so freely scatter’d,
To buy for Europe peace and liberty?

Ye’re bold of tongue — but hark, would ye in deed but try it
Or is the hero, now reclined in laurelled quiet,
Too weak to fix once more, Izmail’s red bayonet?
Or hath the Russian Tsar ever, in vain commanded?
Or must we meet all Europe banded?
Have we forgot to conquer yet?

Or rather, shall they not, from Perm to Tauris’ fountains,’
From the hot Colchian steppes, to Finland’s icy mountains,
From the grey, half-shatter’d wall,
To fair Kathay, in dotage buried
A steely rampart, close and serried,
Rise, Russia’s warriors, one and all?

Then send your numbers without number,
Your madden’d sons, your goaded slaves,
In Russia’s plains there’s room to slumber,
And well they’ll know their brethren’s graves!

1831

 

I´m a young man. I laid no mines and cleared no mines.

The british used italian POW to remove sea mines and as human shields. The brits also shot at italian soldiers who already surrendered. You acted in no way different than the Nazis.

 

I have news for you, the British were indifferent to the lives of their own men, never the less the Italians or Germans. Hitler was shocked at the poor condition of the British youth, and in WWI most of the men drafted were undernourished. Not only that, one pilot who managed to survive a plane wreck, was ready to go in front of a firing squad for leaving his machine gun behind.

Unless I'm mistaken, it was the deaths of so many Australians at Gallipoli that led to the break up the British Empire. They decided enough was enough.

 

Marcus there was a difference though between the Italians and Germans. I know in Greece the Italians were always humane, but the Germans and especially the SS were harsh...but mostly against the communists. The British on the other hand would conduct false flag attacks to get the Germans to react so that the people would join them.

The communist gorilla's were even more cruel. ..and again when they would commit an atrocity against the Germans, the Germans would react against the people. Two towns in Greece were wiped out because of it. Later on though in the civil war more crimes were committed by the communists, than by the Germans before them.

 

And yet after we conquered your country, we threw no millions into ovens. We enslaved no one.

Your people came to give mine death, those who instead received it are not to be mourned by us.

 

Its ok amigo. Its fine enough to see you die today. At thehands of our countless muslim invaders.

 

One of the horrors of the war was what happened to the 10,000 Italian soldiers on Cephalonia. When Italy surrendered, the German officer on the island told them to hand in their weapons and that nothing would happen to them. In the meantime the Germans were sending in soldiers to fortify the island and the British knew about it because they had broken the German code with their enigma machine. They decided not to let the Italians know so as not to give away that they had the code. The Italians were all killed...

This wasn't the only time though that people were killed so as to keep the knowledge secret. When the Germans were going to bomb the city of Coventry, again Churchill was given the choice of whether he should warn the people and thereby risk having the Germans aware that the code had been broken, or not to tell them. He chose not to tell them.

There is a law that a person's papers cannot to be revealed until 70 years after their death. Churchill died in 1965 so there are a few more years before everything will become public. The same with the death of President Kennedy. The facts will never be known until seventy years after Jackie's death. The only thing she said is that she married Onassis to leave the country because they were killing Kennedy's.

 

Lovely poem but you didn't give an author. It was Britain at the beginning of the 19th century that began seeing Russia as a threat to its empire. I noticed that it was written before the Crimean war, when Britain and France joined the Turks... preferring to see them in charge of Constantinople and the Bosporus than have it fall in Russian hands. That Constantinople was predominantly Greek Christian didn't matter to them, other than making Russia even more of a threat.

I'm wondering if the Russophobia started with the immigration in Britain of people from Poland and Eastern Europe? I see a correlation there, even in the US.