US crossed the red line in Syria which was expressed as the west side of Euphrates. US special forces named Black Waters helps terrorist YPG groups to pass the river with boats. The region is planned to be a safe zone for Syrian refugees after cleaning of terrorist elements in the region by Turkish army. US rejects all the attempts proposed by Turkiye to clean the region to create a safe zone. US is planning to give the region to terrorist YPG groups and cut all the ties of Turkiye with southern Muslim countries. US also planning to establish a pipeline extending from east to west in Northern Syria and sell oil to European countries. Turkish army warned US and announced that they will intervene the region and they wont allow US for such a plan. http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2016/1-june-ypg-control-the-mountains-overlooking-qere-qowzaq
If US do so then people from YPG are not terrorists. Turkey has to listen what US says. Turkey would better not interfere with US army or it will be very bad for Turkey.
Black Water hasn't existed for about 8 years now and they have no affiliation with the US military or government. Thus it is obvious this story is fake.
Wrong! The US listens to what Erdogan says, that why he's looked on as a god by his people. When the American secret service wore Kurd insignias recently outside of Raqqa, Erdogan freaked so Obama told them to remove them immediately.
I would be a little more worried about Russia's red line. They told the Turks to keep the h*ll out of Syria. ..and the Russians do not joke around.
All this does is shows that there is not international strategy for Syria. You have multiple nations getting involved without coordinating with each other. It is time for the US to completely pull out of Syria, and the UN to get off their collective posterior ends to create a single command with a single objective. Either remove Assad, or remove the opposition.
The Geneva conference has ended, and now it's an inter Syrian dialogue. The terrorists that Saudi Arabia pulled into the Geneva talks are now excluded, and the Kurds who were excluded because of Turkey, are now part of the discussion. It seems the US and Russia are working together on it since they are both friends with the Kurds. Let's see what happens. In the meantime Russia is sending an aircraft carrier full of arms to Syria, and the Turks have entered into a part of Syria which is a red line for Russia. ISIS has re-entered the fray around Aleppo, so now it's not only the Turkish supported Al Nusra the Syrians have to contend with, it's ISIS as well. Raqqa is ISIS's stronghold, and what the Kurds and Syrians want to do is cut off all its supply lines. This is about all I can make out from all the confusion and fighting going on all over the place.
Last time Russia put down a "red line" one of their jets mysteriously burst into flames. You say they joke around but I thought it was pretty funny.
I will give it to them because this is actually true. Someone crossed a line and they invaded. We create lines all the time and then dont have the balls to back them up
Russia has never put down a red line, they trusted Turkey as part of the American coalition. They gave them the information as to where the Russian jet would be and at what time, and the Americans forwarded it to the Turks. Russia was stabbed in the back by Turkey, a nation which prospered because of Putin. So no matter how many overtures Erdogan makes to undo the dire economic situation in Turkey, Putin will not budge...
Mineva here is the latest from Greekdefense.net. The Kurds passed west of the Euphrates with the support of the US, which means the two Kurdish sides will unite and be able to form an autonomous state alongside the Turkish border. This is why Turkey said it is a red line ...but who cares. In the meantime there is a battle going on to free the city of Manmpitz, and Turkey told Washington it is a 'casus belli', but who cares. Manmpitz is the city that ISIS volunteers and supplies go through to reach their other territories. Once the city is freed, then ISIS will be isolated and it will fall.
Do something about it the fascist war criminal Russian pigs don't have the means or the balls to do anything to a NATO member, Russia is a weak tin pot dictatorship and a joke on the global stage.
I like how people like to put "moderate rebels" in parentheses. The Kurdish rebels are secular and yes they are Rebels. And keep in mind the SDF is not just Kurdish, but Arab, Assyrian etc so they are should not be just called "Kurds". Secular government. All fighting against ISIS and Assad terrorists.
SDF/YPG have not engaged Russian forces, but worked with them to fight ISIS/Nusra. But yes, they have fought the Russian backed Assad's terrorist government due to years of oppression and denial of independence, but they have backed off in the ceasefire to deal with ISIS. Hopefully the US Special Forces and SDF can take Raqqa before Assad. Therefore we can get a big Kurdistan territory to declare independence. Hopefully, the US will supply Patriots and F-16s if the Russian terrorists do get involved.
Turkish Army is ready to intervene the region to kick US forces and YPG terrorist groups out of the region. Special Maroon Berets teams watching the movements in the region closely.
Turkey panicked. When putin killed hundreds of isis turks backed by usa. Usa also panics like child. You peopke talk of war but too coward to have big war.
Mineva let me ask you something, who does Turkey trust? You hate the Kurds, Armenians, Greeks, Syrians, Jews, Russians, Serbs, Germans, Americans, etc., etc. Too much anger is not good for the soul. [video=youtube;Vi96f4v5iC0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi96f4v5iC0[/video]
You should also ask yourself the oposite Who is out there that actual trusts Turkey ? Those not worthy of trust often don't trust others either.
Usa begging Russia not to bomb its terrorists in syria. Usa backs terrorists, russia kills them. Only the nazis complains.
Oh look. It's back. Wonder how long it'll take for it to get banned again. I give it 2 weeks. Well since there are no "hundreds of Isis Turks" they obviously weren't panicking. And since the only people making thread after thread about war this and war that and Russia's nukes this and Russia's nukes that are the Russian trolls it's clear that the US isn't the one panicking. By your own words Russians must literally be pissing thier pants daily. Why else would they be spouting so much hysteria on this forum?
Hide behind your rules american. You cant even handle forum. How usa cope in real war. Your afraid now by little words on screen. As for turkey. They supported Isis and many killed by russian bombs. Their choice.
