Man arrested with guns going to the L.A. Gay Parade was a Sanders supporter

Name one.

 

Trump supporters post Sanders memes all day on social media. In fact many Sanders supporters say they will vote for Trump rather than Hillary.

Most of these people are Trump supporters pretending otherwise to stir up hate for Hillary but still.

Many of the independents voting for Sanders are conservatives. When you break down the demographics of independent voters you find they still vote along party lines consistently with the liberals voting for democrats and the conservatives voting for Republicans.

Drawing a line from a man who hates the Democratic nominee to liberals just because he posted a meme about Sanders being better than Hillary who he hates is pretty funny, if not pathetic.

 

I am calling it what IT IS.

I dont believe going by your posts you give a damn what those families are going through.. Hell some of them might be religious! The Horror!

I did not "chose" him being a Jihadist.... HE DID BY HIS ACTIONS!

Why oh why with 49 dead are you hear spinning this crap? I mean you already admitted you hate religion so therefor anyone religious.. Know how many BILLION people that is?

 

So again, please tell me how it is a comfort to the family to call him a Muslim Jihadist rather than a Religious Psychopath. Please show me how this guy is not a religious psychopath?

No, you don't give a damn about the families, you only care about furthering your anti-Muslim agenda and having the killer called what YOU want. The only one that is spinning is you. The killer WAS a religious psychopath, prove me wrong. Here's a hint, you can't.

 

They deserve the respect to be told the truth. Instead they are getting PC babble and that disgusts me.

A Jihadists is a Religious Psychopath. There is no difference.

Brilliant the guy who says he hates all Religions projects his nonsense onto me.... I guess one who is consumed by hate can not understand those who are not. We are done here.

 

ABC News is reporting that James Howell was anti Clinton pro Bernie Sanders.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/latest-neighbors-reported-man-pride-parade-39801001

CNN and MSNBC are still trying to find a Tea Party connection.

 

I must assume you've never heard of Timothy McVeigh?

You also know that for decades now Right Wing extremist groups have made 3 of the top five biggest terrorist threats to national security by the DHS and that includes all the years Republicans were in power right?

But since you said name one I'll start small.


On Aug. 10, 1999 White supremacist Buford O. Furrow, Jr., fired 70 rounds with an Uzi-type submachine-gun inside the lobby of the Jewish Community Center in Granada Hills, CA wounding three children, a teenage counselor and an office worker. He then carjacked a woman’s Toyota at gunpoint, dumped it behind a motel and murdered US Postal Worker Joseph Santos with a Glock 9mm handgun.

On July 27, 2008 Former U.S. Army private, Jim David Atkinsson, who hated Democrats, liberals, African Americans and homosexuals, using a Remington Model 48 12-gauge shotgun, murdered two people and injured seven others inside the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, TN.

The day after Obama’s inauguration, white supremacist Keith Luke went on a killing spree in Brockton, Massachusetts. His goal was to kill as many Jews, blacks and Hispanics as possible. When questioned by investigators, the deranged gunman who had stockpiled hundreds of rounds of ammunition, proclaimed that he was fighting the extinction of the white race.

A little over a month later, Dannie Baker, a former Republican campaign volunteer shot five Chilean immigrants in Florida. Those who knew him said he was obsessed with the fear that illegal immigrants were taking over the country.

In April of 2009, Richard Popalowski, a white supremacist in Pittsburgh, shot and killed three police officers following a domestic disturbance call. He apparently thought that Obama was part of a government conspiracy to seize all guns, and he feared the government would take his guns away.

Later the same month, a Fort Walton Beach Florida man who thought the Obama administration was conspiring against him, shot and murdered two sheriff’s deputies.

On May 31, 2009 Dr. George Tiller was murdered in his own church by a right-wing “pro- life” gun man who decided to express his belief in the sanctity of human life by executing a medical doctor.

Eleven days later a right-wing white supremacist and Holocaust denier walked into the National Holocaust Museum and killed an African-American security guard. Two weeks later, three Neo-Nazis were arrested for bombing a diversity office in Scottsdale, Arizona.

On April 20, 2010 a member of the Sovereign Citizen movement was arrested after a failed attempt to take over a Tennessee county courthouse.

Exactly one month later, in West Memphis Arkansas, Sovereign citizens Jerry and Joe Kane murdered two police officers before they themselves were shot and killed in the ensuing shoot out with police.

On July 18, 2010 Byron Williams, an angry unemployed man, was arrested by police after they discovered a car full of weapons and ammunition that he had planned to use to kill progressives. He was on his way to the non-profit Tides Foundation Center, a favorite target of vitriol from Glenn Beck’s radio show.

On Jan. 8, 2011 22-year old Jared Lee Loughner killed six people, including a judge and a nine-year old child, and wounded 13 others, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ), using a 9mm Glock 19 pistol during a public meeting in a supermarket parking lot near Tuscon, AZ.

On Aug. 5, 2012 Wade Michael Page, a 40-year old white supremacist and U.S. Army veteran murdered six people and wounded four others inside a Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, WI with a Springfield XD(M) semi-automatic pistol.

 

Anyone killing "in the name of" is a psychopath. Just like those in N. Korea, China, USSR who killed "in the name of" their state where psychopaths, and they had nothing to do with religion, but killed far more than "in the name of (religion)" has ever killed. Why do you hate "religious psychopaths" more than "statist psychopaths"?

 

You don't get the politicizing of tragedy? Obama has been doing it for 8 years, and the liberal loons did it right after 9/11/01, where have you been?

The fact is, we have had 15 years to get better at this, and the liberal loons with their PC police out there cause these tragedies

 

Not the last 20 years, and not a mass shooting.

"Threats" aren't the same as carried out. Plus, what do you consider a "threat"?

"all the years republicans where in power"? You mean as Potus or congress or both? The later is only 6 years.

Well, "white supremacist" doesn't equal conservative. Since the Conservatives are always the ones that stand up with Jews and isreal, its hard to align this guy with the GOP.

I was out of the country for this one, I can concede that this is "one".

Same as before with the whole "white supremacist" thing.

"diagnosed as bi-polar and schizophrenic". Not sure how you relate this to a "rightwing nut job."

White supremacist again? And gun laws are a losing battle even for democrats.

Doesn't prove or even connect him with the GOP

Not a "mass shooting".

Again, "white supremacist" doesn't equal GOP.

Mass shooting?

Not a mass shooting.

Didn't shoot anyone.

Know liberal.

Again....

 

Here's my list.
THE LIST:
– Nidal Hasan – Ft Hood Shooter: Reg(*)istered Democrat and Muslim.
– Aaron Alexis, Navy Yard shooter – black liberal/Obama voter
– Seung-Hui Cho – Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, registered Democrat.
– James Holmes – the “Dark Knight”/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occu(*)py guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.
– Amy Bishop, the rabid leftist, killed her colleagues in Alabama, Obama supporter.
– Andrew J. Stack, flew plane into IRS building in Texas – Leftist Democrat
– James J. Lee who was the “green activist”/ leftist took hostages at Discovery Channel – progressive liberal Democrat.
– Jared Loughner, the Tucson shooter – Leftist, Marxist.
- Elliot Rodger

These are confirmed liberals and not speculations like yours.

 

What strawman? You are on here condemning only the religious types, not the statist types. Now if you say you "hate" the statist types too, then you are truly among the tiniest minorities on the face of the planet.

 

By the tone of your post, I get the impression that you think it's wrong when that happens.

What then makes it right for you to do it?

 

We've been over this before, when Obama made his inane remarks at a Christian breakfast(at a Christian breakfast no less! Hospitality is something the President does not have in spades). The Crusades were at least 1,000 years old. Comparing the Christian Crusades to modern day terrorism isn't even an apt comparison to the challenges we face today.

here's no more Knights Templar. But there is an ISIS, there is an Al-Qaeda, Taliban, Boko Haram, etc al.

The reality is that radicalized extremists are going to kill Americans regardless of race, ideology or preference thereof. Unless you pay a "Giza", convert to Islam, etc. And obviously, none of those are options.

It's US vs them, humanity VS inhumanity. The battle lines have been drawn and continue to be drawn with each drip of blood caused by these fanatic maniacs.

 

Not necessarily. You're anti-Hillary, and you're not pro-Sanders.

Not hardly, but you're helping to prove my point.

Why not? There's a whole undercurrent of thought that Trump and Bernie have some overlap in their base, which is why Trump thinks he can win over some Bernie backers.

And beyond that, Trump supporters would TOTALLY post stuff bashing Hillary and supporting Bernie in the context of the Democratic primary, fanning the divisive flames to try to drive a wedge between the two candidates and their supporters.

Finally, there are people who will post anything bashing someone they dislike, even if if comes from someone they dislike a little less.

So you are assuming quite a bit based on a single post. It appears he mostly posted stuff bashing Hillary; you don't see stuff supporting Sanders, outside of that single post, the main purpose of which was bashing Hillary.

 

Given the thread is about a religious nut job yes I am going to comment on religion. However feel free to post another thread and I'll be more than happy to comment further.

 

Again, not helpful. How is the shooter not a religious psychopath?

 

Problem is, there doesn't seem to be much depth behind that statement. It appears to be something he just did to increase the attention getting -- or to try to justify the massacre he was committing.

It isn't unusual for people planning something terrible (like massacring people) to claim they were doing it in relation to some cause that caught their eye. But that's not really why they're doing it.

The guy who shot up the anti-abortion clinic in Colorado, for example, just seems to have been mentally ill, even though he claimed to be doing it on behalf of the unborn.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-colorado-plannedparenthood-idUSKCN0X9068

Even his ex-wife, who hates him, said he wasn't particularly religious. It appears he kept his self-radicalization, if there was any, to himself.

More likely, he was mentally ill (that seems clear, in fact), and the ISIL bit was just something he said to the 911 operator, geared for attention.

But answer this: if you don't think we should blame all pro-lifers for the Colorado abortion shooter, why do you think we should blame all Muslims for the Orlando shooter?

 

No, this thread is about "Man arrested with guns going to the L.A. Gay Parade was a Sanders supporter". You have made it into a hate for religious people thread. Bernie is the epitome of "statist" fanatics.

 

...Or all gun owners?

So you are here saying he wasn't a religious nut job? That seems counter to what [MENTION=67279]Arxael[/MENTION] is saying.

 

and those Trump supporters would have also posted and wrote in support of Trump. there isn't one post one meme done in support of Trump anywhere on is face book page other wise it would be plastered all over left wing propaganda rags. all that was discovered was a Anti- Hillary meme and a Pro-Sander meme which will make any reasonable person come to the logical conclusion he was a Sanders supporter

 

I don't think we're going to convert people into worldwide atheism(and I think that's even less helpful). It's important to distance between religious fanatics and those spiritually inclined. Because anyone one with the spirit, would not commit to violence. And they don't. The religious wars are over, except for one group.

Not acknowledging that, is the true evil that allows them to perpetuate their crimes. Either Islam itself stops its own violent tendencies, or we have to stop it. Or we watch ourselves get slaughtered while feigning some kind of "concern" that we never act upon.

 

Sure. Where did I blame all gun owners for anything? I'm a gun owner.

BTW, pushing for stricter gun regulations isn't "blaming all gun owners" for anything, either. Any more than requiring people to get a driver's license is "blaming all drivers." Or requiring people to go through metal detectors at the airport is "blaming all travelers."

Well, he was clearly a nut job.

if it turns out he was in fact motivated by extreme religious beliefs, then he was a religious nut job.

I'm saying that the early evidence seems to indicate it was nutjob, period.

Um, okay. Am I required to agree with other posters on things?

 

but you forget if he was a Trump support there would have been something he wrote a meme he would have posted in support of Trump, but there was nothing because if there was it would have been plastered all of leftist media. all that was discovered was a Anti- Hillary meme and a Pro-Sander meme which will make any reasonable person come to the logical conclusion he was a Sanders supporter

 

Even if that goes against the constitution? What "stricter regulation" would have stopped this guy? Or any of the other past mass shootings in the past 20 years? They were already in a "gun free zone", if criminals wont respect the sign and law against bringing guns into gun free zones, what else would have stopped him?

Funny, any mass shooter is honestly a nut job, no matter what the underlying reasoning is.

Nope, just crossing over dialogs.