Florida nightclub shooting: 50 killed and 53 injured in 'act of terror'

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  1. For Topical Use Only

    For Topical Use Only Well-Known Member

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    On the topic of manufacturing terrorists:

    http://uk.businessinsider.com/fbi-is-manufacturing-terrorism-cases-2016-6?r=US&IR=T

    And on Mateen:

     
  2. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Considering what happened to Manning, Snowden, Assange, Binney, Sterling, Kiriakou, Drake and quite a few others, I sure do not blame any whistleblower for having fear of retaliation.

    The San Bernardino affair was clearly a hoax. At least 2 witnesses I'm aware of reported 3 athletic looking males as being the shooters.
     
  3. krashsmith81

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    Great Point! Let's get rid of it completely, so one day America can devolve into a Dictatorship with millions dead, cause hey, a mass shooting where 50 people die is way worse than a dictatorship where millions die, right?

    And if you don't think it can happen here, you fell alseep in history class, the 2nd Amendment exists for a reason.
     
  4. starcitizen

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    Delusional nonsense.
     
  5. Geiri

    Geiri New Member

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    The only way to to remove a US dictatorship would be through the army. It would be impossible for the public with guns to do such a thing. Its not the 1700's.
     
  6. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not really. Sterling is still in prison, and Kiriakou served about 2 years. The rest are on record.

    SB affair was a tragic demonstration by Scott Pelley as to how the mainstream media is merely a lapdog for stories concocted by law enforcement. His complete disregard of the story of Sally A who worked there, I cannot remember her unusual last name, was an insult to any curious person.
     
  7. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

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    The plot thickens...

    BOMBSHELL: FBI Admits NOBODY DIED @Pulse... Before 5:13AM?

    This goes TOTALLY against the official story:

    [video=youtube;44rXumubJbI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44rXumubJbI[/video]
     
  8. starcitizen

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    Your assertion that San Bernardino was a hoax is delusional nonsense based on nothing.

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    Delusional nonsense.
     
  9. starcitizen

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    He came in guns blazing we have it on video that they were all still partying when he entered the club firing:

    [video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tN_x1HUaYPQ[/video]


    So shut your conspiracy theory holocaust denying mouth, people are still in mourning and are going through enough without sick bastards on the Internet peddling this nut job bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
  10. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

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    We should feel blessed that we have people here with more knowledge on these issues than the FBI and the CIA.
     
  11. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    horrible that soo many innocent people had to die in the club.

    what's the total deaths now? 52?

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    interesting that even with all your talk about 9-11 being an inside job and controlled demolitions, done in part by the CIA and FBI, you now do a full reversal and support the comments of the FBI and CIA.

    how's that work?

    by the way, the CIA isn't involved in the crime scene.
     
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    SamSkwamch Banned

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    I never said would you claim for one AND BECAUSE THEY SAID IT!

    Jeez
     
  13. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the FBI and CIA never said "no one died at the club".

    the FBI and CIA never said "no one died until the police broke in".

    Judge Napalitano, is a liar scumbag
     
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    ....but they need see that the Muslims don't use the Law,... They use force.

    Gay marriage is too dangerous now.
     
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    The FBI does not support his claims. How in the hell do the 911 transcripts support the assertion that no one was killed until 5:13AM these people are delusional.
     
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    No they didn't say that and neither did the transcript which they released, provide these transcripts which say that no one was killed until 5:13AM. I already provided the video from inside the club when the gunmen came in and he came in shots firing he didn't come in and round people up for hostages he came in and shot them and then took hostages.
     
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    [video=youtube;QgRkh1NHlX8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgRkh1NHlX8[/video]

    Did the SWAT team shoot Orlando hostages?

    That was my immediate question when I first heard the story.

    I became even more curious when I heard the audio of the final shoot out.

    What happens when steroid-pumped cowboys enter a nightclub with guns blazing to "save" hostages?

    It's called "friendly fire."

    The bombshell: “Nobody died until 05:13 in the morning”

    So let's see where the story is now:

    1. The reported shooter was gay
    2. He had no known links to any Middle East terror groups
    3. He had been approached by the FBI earlier who apparently had tried to recruit him
    4. He took time to put down his "assault weapon" and post to Facebook and make phone calls
    5. Nobody died until the SWAT team entered the night club guns blazing at 5:13 AM in the morning

    All I can say is: Wow. This is a whole lot different from the original story.
    http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/...did-the-swat-team-shoot-orlando-hostages.html
     
  18. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    nobody at the FBI or Orlando police said this

    Napolitano is a lying conspiracy theorist
     
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    Here's a witness report. The killer's message was clear.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the FBI did not say no one died in the club till 5 am

    Napolitano is a lying scumbag
     
  21. SamSkwamch

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    Do you really think calling a US judge making this statement on a national news network "a lying conspiracy theorist" will make this go away?

    Moreover, this comes directly from the FBI transcript. You seem to be having another unnecessary meltdown.
     
  22. Ronstar

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    the FBI transcript says nothing about "no dead until 5:13 am".

    Napolitano is a notorious liar and conspiracy theorist

    the terrorist started killing as soon as he got inside the club
     
  23. SamSkwamch

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    We have been over this, Ron. The liar liar pants on fire defense does not work lol.

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    Napolitano, the US judge you call a "notorious liar and conspiracy theorist" was absolutely right. Just admit you were wrong again. It really is your best option at this point if you care to save face at all.
     
  24. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, Napolitano is a liar and a fraud.

    the shooter started killing people as soon as he came into the club after 2 am.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-shooting-timeline/

    Around 2:02 a.m. ET: An officer working extra duty in uniform at the club hears gunshots and engages the shooter. The officer feels he is outgunned, retreats from the club, and calls for assistance. Two SWAT officers in a nearby patrol car are among units that respond and a gunbattle ensues.

    Other patrol officers rush into the club during the shootout to pull survivors out.

    The shooter retreats and after exchanging gunfire with a SWAT lieutenant in a hallway he barricades himself and clubgoers in a bathroom.

    Some 100 officers from the Orange County Sheriff's Office and the Orlando Police

    Department respond to the chaotic scene over the next 45 minutes.

    Deadly Orlando shooting attack in 90 seconds

    Deadly Orlando shooting attack in 90 seconds 01:28

    2:05 a.m. ET: Patience Carter says the shooter enters the bathroom and shoots several people hiding there. People scream and scramble as blood flies. Then the gunman stops shooting.

    2:06-2:07 a.m. ET: Shooting victim Eddie Jamoldroy Justice texts his mother from a bathroom stall:

    --Mommy I love you
    --In club they shooting
    --Trapp in bathroom
    --Call police

    Police say they receive communications from from clubgoers who say they are trapped inside the bathroom. This is when they say they knew there were hostages.
    2:09 a.m. ET: Pulse posts an urgent message on Facebook: "Everyone get out of Pulse and keep running."

    A tense standoff follows. Police later say they had to wait three hours to assess the situation, get armored vehicles on the scene and make sure they had enough personnel.

    Approximately 2:22 a.m. ET: Shooter talks to 911 dispatch three times. He calls and hangs up. He calls and talks briefly. The dispatcher calls back. During the calls, the shooter pledges allegiance to ISIS. He also mentions the Boston Marathon bombers and a Florida man who died as a suicide bomber for al Nusra Front in Syria. Patience Carter says he also told a 911 dispatcher he wanted America to stop bombing his country. She said he started speaking a foreign language, probably Arabic, when he ended the call.

    Approximately 2:45 a.m. ET: Killer calls News 13 Orlando and speaks to producer Matt Gentili. Shooter takes responsibility for the attack and claims he did it for ISIS. At some point, he also posts on Facebook.
    2:49-2:51 a.m. ET: Justice texts his mother again:
    --He;s in the bathroom with us
    --women's bathroom is
    --(mom) is the man in the bathroom wit u
    --hes a terror
    --yes
    Justice was killed.
     
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    Not sure where you copied and pasted that from, but I posted the transcript. And Attacking an Honest US judge is a huge fail. Here it is a again:
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