If raising min-wage is so great, why not make it all the way to $100?

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  1. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll extend my offer for today only. Got a year's worth of full time pay stubs at minimum wage? I got a grand for you.
     
  2. Lesh

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    Yea...I'll call them up and send it right over.

    Post your address.
     
  3. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fax to 330-707-9207 and I'm dead serious

    No one, absolutely no one, who works forty hours a week for fifty two weeks a year earns minimum wage.
    That job doesn't exist.
     
  4. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

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    why do we need a capital gains distinction for income, if it doesn't work to create Jobs Booms?
     
  5. erayp

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    You lefties get everything backwards. I know you see everything from a social view point and it's hard for you to understand that people don't invest "to create jobs". They invest to make a profit. Creating jobs is a result of investment (wanting to profit). To put it another way.... I invested my money and time to start my company. I did this in hopes of making a profit. I don't know anyone who say's "I want to start my own business so I can create jobs".

    The sooner you learn that companies are not social institution and it is human nature to want to make a profit, the better you'll understand the world.
     
  6. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

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    The only reason for that tax preference, is to help with full employment. It does not work, so why keep the distinction?
     
  7. raytri

    raytri Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that is why an individual starts a business. That is their personal interest.

    However, SOCIETY's interest is to harness that self-interested goal to benefit society. Which is why we have government.

    The trick is to provide enough individual benefits that entrepreneurs are incentivized to create businesses, while having enough regulation to ensure that the benefits of their entrepreunerism are broadly shared by society.

    Or put another way, robber barons are a cancer on society, not a benefit. A healthy society ensures that would-be robber barons are well-compensated for the risk they take in creating businesses, while ensuring that their addition to the economy helps the many, not just the few.
     
  8. danielpalos

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    many if not most businesses fail due to a lack of capitalization; maybe, by eliminating the distinction, Capitalists will have to practice better capital management before risking their capital on a business venture.
     
  9. erayp

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    You talk weird
     
  10. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

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    nothing but fallacy for your Cause?

    thank you for ceding the point and argument; due to not being able to have an equal or better argument, in the non-porn sector.
     
  11. Maccabee

    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    You ain't seen nothing yet. Just look at his posts in the gun control section.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Thanks for proving his point.
     
  12. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

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    how is that? with nothing but fallacy?
     
  13. erayp

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    yes Maccabee, I've seen his other posts too. It's as if he is trying to sound intelligent but doesn't use the correct terminology (uses strange terminology) ... he talks weird.

    Someone else called it babbling
     
  14. danielpalos

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    so what; y'all have nothing but fallacy. it really is that simple. except to the right.
     
  15. erayp

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    LOL, and even though you don't know the correct terms you believe you know what you are talking about. That's not possible if you don't understand or can't use the language correctly.
     
  16. danielpalos

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    why do we need a capital gains distinction for income for Tax purposes, if it doesn't work to create Jobs Booms?
     
  17. erayp

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    What you don't understand that people invest for PROFIT, not to create jobs lol. Creating jobs is the result of successful investing. Obviously government understands this (except Obama) and government wants people to invest, hence capital gains is taxed differently. There is short term and long term capital gains. Short-term capital gains are taxed at the same rate as ordinary income. Long term is taxed lower, this is because government does not want people to invest short term.

    I know, I know, you thought people invest to create jobs lol.

    Like I said, if you think I am going to risk my money either through investing for capital gains or to grow my company only for government to take so much of the profit, you're kidding yourself.
     
  18. Lesh

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    I believe this post dealt with your nonsense
     
  19. danielpalos

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    That is not the point. The point and reason for the distinction and preference is to stimulate the economy toward full employment. An investment convenience is merely incidental to the purpose.
     
  20. erayp

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    What's wrong with you? ..... risk your own money to create jobs.
     
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    what is wrong with you; risk your own social life for free to create equality.
     
  22. Hoosier8

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    In other words you wouldn't advocate screwing up the system totally, just a little bit.
     
  23. erayp

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    ^^^ wierd
     
  24. danielpalos

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    just clueless and Causeless; i got it.
     
  25. AlphaMale

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    It is up to the person to do what it takes to make what they want in life. It is not the responsibility of an employer or the government to make sure they make a certain wage it is the persons responsibility.
     

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