Finland collecting signatures for referendum on leaving EU

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  1. yacc

    yacc Member

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    They had not any troubles with the USSR since the WWII.
    I visited Finland many times and did not feel any hostile reactions.

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    The key point is that Ronstar hates Russia :roflol:
     
  2. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have met quite a few Finns and they were not very friendly towards Russia.
    The newest poll I can find is the one in Wiki that says 62% had a negative view of Russia in 2004. I doubt that has changed towards positive since.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Russian_sentiment
     
  3. yacc

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    It's not new poll - it was TWELVE years ago! Modern Finland strongly depends on Russia. In some aspects they have no choice in modern Globalization Era.
     
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    Every sane person knows that it is in both EU and Russias best interest to co-operate. And not put sanctions on one another.

    While EU is sanctioning Russia, US is doing business as usual, why is that so?
     
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    Dont play stupid.
     
  6. yacc

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    In terms of the economics he is right.
    US increased trade with Russia since EU sanctions has started.
     
  7. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wrote the newest poll I could find.
    You can read this article in Finnish which has newer polls. Use google translate.
    https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venäläisvastaisuus#cite_note-gradu00787-5

    As one could predict anti-Russian sentiment is growing after Ukraine like everywhere else. If you have anything to dispute my information with please provide it.
    Just saying "I was in Finland and didn't meet anyone who disliked Russia" is not very credible. Neither is the fact that you either misunderstood or deliberately chose to misunderstand my post. 12 years ago Danes would have had a more positive view of Russia than now like most other Europeans.
     
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    Russia illegally invaded territory that belonged to Ukraine and annexed it. Now they are currently firebombing Syria. How does that at all mean Russia is not involved in other states? It's a blatantly untrue.


    Try not deflecting by talking about other people- this is about the misinformation you spoke of here.
     
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    yes, sanctions hurt, but everyone knows why there are sanctions.
     
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    You are the one stupid here.

    US was the first to tell everyone that sanctions should be imposed but still are doing quite well in trade with Russia.
    EU imposed sanctions which is bad for both Russia and EU.
    Several German companies were against this, and several politicians in EU are against this. And EU is also divided on this matter, non the less the recent months.

    I know it is hard for you feminist swedes to think outside of your default setting. But at least try


    Thing is that Russians are used to living hard, can Europeans do the same? Sanctions doesn't do anyone good. What have they don until now? Nothing at all.

    And now BREXIT, ulala, EU is doing just fine aint it :)Btw I have friends living in Moscow, they live just as they did while you are sitting jerking of at ruble exchange rates and graphs.
     
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    Silly slav. Sanctions means russia is economically crippled. For you to understand, that means russians will get less potatos and vodka. Sure it hurts the eu too, but not as much. Remember, the eu is infinitely richer than russia..
     
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    Well, we will se who will have the final word :) Mark my words, Sanctions will be lifted in 1-2.
    I may be silly, but at least I'm not selling my ass out. You swedes would sell your own mother for personal gain.
     
  13. yacc

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    I don't need to read full article because there are a lot of evidences of Finnish barbarities in Karelia before and after WWII documented. And before being a part of Russian Empire Finland was just Swedish colony.
    Here is the fresh poll http://yle.fi/urheilu/3-7716663

    This article is not about an Ukraine. Finland and Ukraine are total different countries.

    Wiki is less credible than visiting of a Country. Seems to you did not seen drunk finnish men ever :)

    12 years ago same-sex marriage and gay movement was not legal in Denmark.
    Everyone knows that Russia is strongly opposed to that. :)
     
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    Yes indeed, we will see. My bets are on that russia will decline, grow weaker as time goes, even if sanctions are lifted.

    Selling out? To who? Swedes hate russia. Sweden supports sanctions 100%. No one needed to convince us.
     
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    Here is a video for you :)
    This describes you Swedes 100%
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8mnaPK6Bno

    The world is laughing at you.
     
  16. yacc

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    It would be better for Swedes to protect their women from the migrant's homicides but ... swedes are hating Russia!
    When telling about the Swedes do you mean Riksdag ? :)

    What a surprise :)
     
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    Thats what Im telling, they are so lost in this Russian fear that they cant see that Abdullah is doing the raping :D
    Soon Mohammad Svensson will be the most popular name in Sweden :D
     
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    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This poll is about whether they fear Russia. Not whether they dislike Russians.

    You really think that your actions in other countries doesn't influence others?

    Do you have a specific source or claim in the Wiki articles that you want to dispute?

    Denmark decriminalised gay sex in 1933. They were the first country in the world to legalise civil unions in 1989. 12 years you say? Hmm... I'm starting to think I can't trust much you post.
     
  19. yacc

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    If you did not visit Finland you do not understand the specific of the Finland.

    It may definetely affect. For instance gay propaganda in some countries affects on respection of Russians to that country as well :)

    Have you read the story about Blind men and an elephant ? :) You explain me what I was able to see. :)


    I did not say about the criminal.

    Civil union is not the marriage. Similair but not the same.
     
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    You and your misinformation has become boring.

    This was your claim:

    The gay movement was legal 12 years ago... In fact it has been legal since 1933.
    The gay movement goes back to at least the 40's in Denmark.
    http://lgbt.dk/om-os/historie/

    Gay marriage on the other hand was made legal in 2012 but priests can still refuse. I had missed that. Civil unions were made legal in 1989 though.
     
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    You seems to do not understand several simple basics points.
    Until the legalization, gay minorities in the specific countries struggle with the goverment of that country to make new law. Their don't care about other countries. But once this law has passed then goverment starts propaganda of new type of the relationships and that affects on respection of whole country toward the other countries with different laws.
     
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    Jeff Monson (known fighter with no rules and citizen of Russia) in the Luhansk country - fight with the Ukrainians.

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    But you are an ardent fan of Obama condemn it. Is not it?
     
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    You didn't address my point. You made a statement that was false. Then you deflected because there was nothing left to say.
     
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    The common currency is the bane of the EU. I can understand its appeal, but if nations do not have their own currency as a concurrent currency to the Euro, then their hands are largely tied in terms of options to dealing with economic troughs. There is really no logical reason France could not also have the franc and the euro, for instance. The only outcomes possible with a common currency are either the collapse of the EU or the consolidation of all the member states under a single government. One or the other is inevitable. In this case, it appears as if the former is happening.
     
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    I think your favorite Obama - a war criminal. In addition, I think that your favorite Obama - destroyed the American economy. But you voted twice (and agitating others) give their vote to Obama. Are you disappointed by the fact that your favorite president will soon leave the White House. So you are very aggressive to me....But you have a chance - vote for Clinton and you will get Obama in a skirt.
     

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