90% Of June Job Gains Went To Workers 55 And Older

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  1. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think it's a world of trolling.
     
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    And when they do show up, they think it's time to get together and form petitions to change dress code because everything is about them...even at a jobsite. Better to stick with a generation that knows you come in, do someone elses business for 8 hours and go home. Return again the next day for more of the same.

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    Exactly.
    Why bring in people like that who spend the time worrying about their made up "rights" and waste time on petitions. No thanks. give me the older guy who knows what working is.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Complete story linked in the thread but I believe the "aggrieved" intern got about thirty more to sign his petition demanding the company change its dress code.
     
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    The younger generation better hope for self working robots to come soon after the self driving car, otherwise they are gonna need a way to feed and clothe themselves after mommy and daddy die.
     
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    I read the annonous blog post question, nothing about how many, what line of work, age, type of company, paid or unpaid. But an anonymous post on the internet and the lackies go wild. 17 and going pages on this forum alone over an anonymous anecdote that may or may not have actually happened. :roflol:
     
  6. FreshAir

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    I think we need to lower the retirement age, so there is more jobs for the young
     
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    Another Logic fail.

    The fact that most of the jobs went to workers aged 55+ does not lead to your conclusions.

    Over the past year, the total number of (noninstitutionalized) people aged 55+ has increased by 2.3 million.

    http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU00024230

    But the number of people aged 55+ employed only increased 1.0 million.

    http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab9.htm

    The number unemployed is basically unchanged.

    http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab10.htm

    The bulk of the increase of people aged 55+ are not working but are dropping out of the work force, because they are retiring.
     
  8. APACHERAT

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    You're not the only one who thinks that.

     
  9. Bluesguy

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    And by law force people to retire? Surely you jest?
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    Maybe you should leave the analysis to the experts

    The Increasing Labor Force Participation of Older Workers and its Effect on the Income of the Aged
    https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v72n1/v72n1p59.html

    Older workers: increasing their labor force ...
    www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2008/01/art3full.pdf

    "Who is dropping out, and why?

    A popular view is that labor force participation is declining because older people are retiring. But since 2000 the labor force participation rates of workers 55 and over have been rising steadily, and the labor force participation rates of workers between 16 and 54 have been declining."
    http://www.realclearmarkets.com/art...ng_out_of_the_labor_force_and_why_100840.html
     
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    None of which rebuts my point.

    The fact that more older workers are staying in the workplace does not lead to the conclusion that boomers hitting retirement age is a cause of the LFPR decline.
     
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    never said that, give them the option....
     
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    Yes it does their higher participation is keeping the number higher than it would be without them. That retiring baby boomers are the cause of the decline is fallacious.

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    There goes you plan. You can retire at any age you choose to retire now.

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    There goes you plan. You can retire at any age you choose to retire now.
     
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    Social Security Retirement age.....
     
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    Logic fail. The fact that more older workers are staying in the workplace does not lead to the conclusion that boomers hitting retirement age is a cause of the LFPR decline. The fact that it is "higher than it would be without them" is irrelevant.

    The data I posted proves that the majority of people entering the 55+ age are retiring, and the baby boom generation is a demographic driver.
     
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    Boomers are retiring since 5 years ago boomers started reaching the SS full retirement age. But some of us are also taking part time jobs as I did for a year. I didn,t need to work and was just using the money to buy extra stuff for the Grandkids. I did go back after I quit to have come surgery and I figured jet someone who needs a job work. Where I worked there were a good number of people who had retired from a long time job and we're working to hit the. SS age. Yes they were boomers.
     
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    Boomers are retiring since 5 years ago boomers started reaching the SS full retirement age. But some of us are also taking part time jobs as I did for a year. I didn,t need to work and was just using the money to buy extra stuff for the Grandkids. I did go back after I quit to have come surgery and I figured jet someone who needs a job work. Where I worked there were a good number of people who had retired from a long time job and we're working to hit the. SS age. Yes they were boomers.


    Last year on the first nice warm summer day the younger gang virtually all called in with a very mysterious stomache malady. It was so sad so many young lives all sick like thst all if a sudden. The manager called us boomers in to ask if we can please come in.
     
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    That's because many of these workers had been forced into early retirement.

    The economy is going to have some ways to go before it can substantially start cutting into the unemployment rate.
    There are all these people on the sidelines not counted in the official unemployment rate who are going to be jumping back into the labor market as soon as a good opportunity opens up.
     
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    Yea, because Obamacare killed the concept of a full time job - there are only part time jobs. Companies know they have to provide full time employees with private health care insurance so they basically killed full time employees. Now you have 2 people doing what 1 person was doing and that is what all these "created jobs" were - yeah part time jobs....

    Retired people want something to do so they get a part time job and what a better market to get a part time job than a market like this where almost all jobs have become part time?
     
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    Absolutely..... The real unemployment rate is at least 18%...

    I would bet full-time employment is at an all time low, perhaps maybe 55% of those working are full-time employees.
     
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    what your saying is it killed full time jobs at business to cheap to give employees the option of insurance in the first place and now they are giving less hours to still screw the employee because of there greed..... and the Trump supporters support this?
     
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    Same old, tired right wing hate machine propaganda. If There's good news, Obama had nothing to do with it. Bad news, it's all his fault. Don't you cons get tired of crying about the same regurgitated nonsense?
     
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    I'm 22 at this point working a job at $12/hour, 10 hour days, 6 days a week. There was a bout of unemployment for me where I couldn't get a job ANYWHERE. None of the local fast food would hire me, not even the one I worked at previously. Menards wouldn't let me run a register for them because they found someone with "more experience." I don't know how much more experience they could have asked for considering I had 5 years of retail experience. The only reason I found the job I have now is through a temp agency. It's the easiest way to get a job these days, but they're also shady as can be to the people that work for them. So no, it's not always that people in my age group are lazy. A lot of them are, but a lot also work just as hard if not harder than previous generations and they get less for their effort. You know it's rough out there when Ronald McDonald won't take you under his wing.
     
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    there hiring bi language Spanish mostly over English only i heard very sad, i would say to you go into trucking long-haul, but its really hard on young men since there away from friends and family, girl friends so much.
     
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    No, there is no option....... There are no more full-time jobs... Only part-time jobs.

    Companies don't want to pay for health insurance - especially super expensive health insurance with ridiculous deductibles that only make the concept of insurance viable if you need a $80,000 surgery or procedure or something. Like Trump likes to say you would need to get hit by a bus for insurance to make a difference these days given the deductibles.

    Do you realize what Obama has done?

    He hasn't helped anyone as far as healthcare, all he has done is destroy healthcare, not only that but killed the concept of a full-time job in the process..

    It is easily clear to the non-partisan informed people of this country that Obama is easily one of the worst and most destructive presidents in US history.
     

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