Agitators hurl rocks at Phoenix police, chant ‘we should shoot you’

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  1. godisnotreal

    godisnotreal Well-Known Member

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    That data is flawed. There's no evidence that illegal immigrants commit crime more often than American born people.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...igrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/
     
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    illegals are in fact more prone to commit crimes.

    In 2013, 59% of deported immigrants convicted of a crime
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...-of-deported-immigrants-convicted-of-a-crime/

    Looks like the greater majority of immigrants are in fact criminals.
     
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    Uh--not really. That's deported immigrants. That's cause if you commit a crime, you're more likely to be deported. Its true that if you are undocumented and you commit a crime, then you're much more likely to be deported. So most immigrants who are deported, naturally, will have committed a crime. But jumping from that to "most immigrants are criminals" is exactly what a RACIST would do. In fact, that's how racists have operated for much of our world's history--taking facts that aren't racist, and then using those facts to make invalid racist generalizations about groups of people. So thanks for proving my point.

    It would be like me saying "100% of whites who are in jail have committed some crime." Therefore, most whites are criminals.

    Does that make any sense to you?
     
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    The whole place is starting to become a real toilet.
    Sorry...I meant the world...terrorists in France...people wanting to kill each other in the USA..or should
    that be the VSA...Violent States of America..
    And guess what...its going to get worse before it gets better......
    I think we need a William Wallace to get some law and order and get rid of the rabble....
    At least a leader with some balls...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofkd3pFy3dY
     
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    Biggest lie I have seen since Hillary last opened her mouth. Hit and run accidents are epidemic in southern California. Guess who commits these crimes? When your first act in America is coming here illegally, obviously American laws mean little to you.
     
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    I bet if I walked up to a Melbourne cop tonight and said I was gonna choot him. I'd be dead by the time I hit the ground.
     
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    AND rightfully so.
     
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    Yep, that's how its suppose to be.
     
  9. Jim Rockford

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    Typical scream "racist" when you lose the argument.

    Blah, Blah, Blah, slavery. Blah & Blah Jim Crow. Blah, Blah Blah #BLM.

    And so it goes.
     
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    you're the one who's lying. you claim that immigrants are more likely to commit crimes. And yet, you have no legitimate data to back that up. nothing but empty claims. that's the definition of a lie.

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    we're talking about real crimes - like rape and murder. Not the technicality that crossing the border is itself illegal. Yes--so is leaving your house with less than $20 in some states. That's technically, also illegal, and makes you a criminal, technically. But we're not talking about technicalities.
     
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    I've often wondered if you would be ok with the US treating it's southern border the same way Mexico treats it's southern border.

    Sound good to you? Sounds good to me.
     
  13. Jim Rockford

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    So you like to minimize the crimes. Duly noted that you support illegal immigration. Why don't you emigrate to Mexico.

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    So you like to minimize the crimes. Duly noted that you support illegal immigration. Why don't you emigrate to Mexico.
     
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    How many thousands of people were documented throwing rocks at the police?? Or was it a handful of protesters or hired agitators hired to infiltrate the protest to make it seem that they were a part of the organization. Have the leaders of BLM publicly stated that they condone the supposed violence? Y'all need to have some facts before casting blame.
     
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    How many in the crowd could have stopped the agitators, if they wanted to. But why would they? They are carrying signs and chanted slogans to kill cops. So no one is going to stop anything in the #BLM.
     
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    If you were in the crowd, would you have tried to stop them? Answer it honestly.
     
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    If you were peaceful would you let violent thugs hide behind you?
     
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    If you answer my question, I'll answer yours. Come on, its not that tough, a simple yes or no will suffice.
     
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    I just did , I would not allow thugs to hide behind me. #BLM is just like hezbullah where the women and children are shields for thug terrorists.

    Thanks for setting it straight that you approve of violent protests.
     
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    No Jim you skirted the question; last chance, If you were in the crowd, would you have tried to stop them? Answer it honestly.
     
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    I already said I would not stay where thugs were using me as a shield . Would you?
     
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    Fail Jim, find someone else to debate with in this thread.
     
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    The General Accounting Office statistics refute you and your liberal media. Illegal immigrants are 3.5% of America's population, but 25% of the prison population. Shameful, your pandering to criminals for partisan political purposes, when your actions cost American lives, and result in American women being robbed and raped.

    The Government Accountability Office has data that show otherwise. Here is the leading sentence from a 2011 GAO report (GAO-11-187, Criminal Alien Statistics, March 2011).

    “The number of criminal aliens in federal prisons in fiscal year 2010 was about 55,000, and the number of SCAAP criminal alien incarcerations in state prison systems and local jails was about 296,000 in fiscal year 2009 (the most recent data available), and the majority were from Mexico.”

    (SCAAP is the State Criminal Alien Assistance Program and in this context means “illegal aliens” – a GAO term meaning “Noncitizens whom ICE verified were [or whom states and local jurisdictions believe to be] illegally in the United States at the time of incarceration”.)

    As for those federal prisoners, the GAO states, “In fiscal year 2005, the criminal alien population in federal prisons was around 27 percent of the total inmate population, and from fiscal years 2006 through 2010 remained consistently around 25 percent.”

    The Washington Post cites an even higher number for 2013, 38.6%, yet dismisses those federal numbers as “not indicative of general crime trends of non-citizens,” because most criminals are incarcerated in state or local facilities.
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    I'm not minimizing crimes--i'm just not blowing them out of proportion, like you are, to try to prove a fake point, and spread lies in order to further a racist agenda. "Why don't you emigrate to mexico?" That's something a racist would say.

    I support illegal immigration, cause I like to play golf. And without immigrants tending to my greens and fairways, my golf experience would surely suffer. To me, illegal immigration is a win-win situation. The immigrants benefit, and I benefit as well. I would never oppose such a great benefit.
     
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    I would be totally OK. If americans wanted to illegally immigrate to mexico in order to do jobs that mexicans didn't want to do, good for them.
     

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