Fifty Senior Republican Security Officials: "Trump is dangerous"

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    Fifty Republican Security Officials: "Trump is dangerous"

    In referring to Trump they wrote, "We are convinced that in the Oval Office, he would be the most reckless President in American history."

    "He is unable or unwilling to separate truth from falsehood. He does not encourage conflicting views. He lacks self-control and acts impetuously. He cannot tolerate personal criticism. He has alarmed our closest allies with his erratic behavior," the letter claims. "All of these are dangerous qualities in an individual who aspires to be President and Commander-in-Chief, with command of the U.S. nuclear arsenal."

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/08/polit...l-security-letter-donald-trump-election-2016/

    This is what senior Republican security and foreign policy experts are saying about "The Donald".

    Ouch! If that's what is friends think about him, you gotta wonder what others think of him. This is a continuing theme with Trump.
     
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    Linky no worky.

    Not surprising to see more republicans backing away from the disaster called trump.
     
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    cupAsoup Well-Known Member

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    The hits keep coming in for the donnie. Trumpbot apologists claiming RINO's in 3... 2.... 1...
     
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    RINO establishment Republicans don't like Trump... News at 11. <SNoooooorrrrrrrrreeee>
     
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    First Trumptard rule, label anyone against Trump as Unamerican, RINO, or liberal.

    Good to know you have read the Trumpeteer rulebook and know it by heart.
     
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    You know Trump is over the fringe of lunacy when even the neo-cons are freaking out.
     
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    Like seeks like so what would make you think that there are not other screwed up people that have found a kindred spirit in Trump?
     
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    I think the real problem with Donald, and his grasp of foreign policy, and negotiation in general, is, he thinks being crazy acting is good tactics. He thinks never backing up his word is good tactics. He thinks being unstable, is good tactics.

    Just like Trump says, if you (*)(*)(*)(*) him off, I SHOULD SUE you. So, I guess he will say to Kim yung Un, I SHOULD nuke you. Just to keep the opposition guessing.
     
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    The hits keep coming in for the donnie. Trumpbot apologists claiming RINO's in 3... 2.... 1...

    Called it. Trumpbots are so predictable.
     
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    By dangerous they mean he opposes renewing the Cold War and opposes creating civil wars and overthrowing governments for the purpose of massive weapons and contractors income.
     
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    no, that is NOT what we mean.
     
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    People who can find other countries on a map don't trust Trump.
     
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    Will someone please post the list of names on this "infamous 50" list ?

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    All the personality issues about Trump and Clinton are all diversions from HUGE REAL ISSUES:

    Way up the list is that Republicans and Democrats, Wall Street, the defense industry and the militarists all want to restart the Cold War with Russia, cause and provide weapons to civil wars, proxy wars, and ring Russia with massive arms build up - and Trump does not. Diametric opposite views.

    For example, Clinton wants to shoot down Russian jets over Syria attacking ISIS and other insurgent groups to end the civil war with Clinton wanting to us the US military to overthrow the Syrian government for these insurgents (that Clinton calls "moderates") - while Trump wants to support Russia destroying ISIS and other insurgents. Exactly opposite stances.

    Exactly opposite on Ukraine too. Clinton wants the USA to get between Russia and Ukraine - while Trump does not. Again, exactly opposite views in regards to renewing the Cold War.

    Since world nuclear war could within this, it is a HUGE issue the media and press NEVER discuss - because most people do NOT want to renew the cold war, do NOT want to go to war with Russia over Syria or Ukraine, and do agree Europe should pay for their own self defense.

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    It is their reason why.
     
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    Quiet, *******s don't like to be exposed as liars! :roflol:
     
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    Really, and where has he said that exactly? He hasn't. He has never said any of that...oops.

    Two, I know of no one in the US who advocates renewing a cold war or advocates creating civil wars. and overthrowing governments for the "puropose of massive weapons and contractors income". That's you making stuff up again.

    Former US intelligence and security officials have publicly stated Trump has become an unwitting agent of the Russian state. That's a problem for or should be a problem for any red blooded American. But it's not.

    The problem most Americans have with Russia i.e. Putin is the fact it began illegally invading, occupying, and annexing the lands of neighboring states just as Hitler did many decades ago. At some point, you have to say no to Putin's land grabs. Do you want to do it now or later? History says it's better to confront tyrants earlier rather than later. If you have a criminal who wants to menace you and your family, it's probably not a good idea to give them the guns, ammunition, information and other materials to enable them to do so. Hitler did exactly the things Putin has done, even going so far as to use the same excuses.

    History has show the correct response is early and explicit intervention e.g. trade sanctions. If that results in a cold war, so be it. It's better than a hot war. We don't need a WWIII. If we learned anything from WWII we should have learned appeasement doesn't work. But then, history isn't Trump's strong point, nor is it a strong point of the dittoheads he leads.
     
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    LOL....oh name calling is so smart. :) Here is your problem, who are these "*******s"? Are they anyone who doesn't mindlessly accept as gospel whatever right wing entertainers like Limbaugh tell you? Two, how do you even know they lie? Where is your evidence they have lied? You have none. You are just mindlessly repeating what you have been taught by Republican or so called "conservative" entertainers.

    Instead of :roflol perhaps your time would be better spent, educating yourself with real and credible information...just saying dude. :) Then you just might be able to engage in intelligent discourse instead of just mindlessly repeating what Republican entertainers have taught you.
     
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    And you seriously think any of that makes any kind of sense? Just where is your evidence Hillary Clinton wants to shoot down Russian jets? You don't have any evidence because Hillary Clinton has said or done nothing to indicate such a thing. Hillary wants Russia to stop illegally invading, occupying, and annexing the lands of its neighbors. I guess history isn't your forte. Because if it were, you would know that's exactly what set off WWII. And the last thing the world needs is another world war. If we should have learned anything from WWII is that appeasement of dictators doesn't work. Eventually, a line must be drawn, because the dictators won't go away. They will grow in power and aggression. The won't stop their aggression until someone draws a line. That fact has not been lost on EU member states and the US leadership, and that's a good thing. But neither you, nor your beloved Trump seem to have learned anything from history. And that's dangerous, the last thing we need to do is to repeat the mistakes which led to WWII.

    Additionally, the US has supported Russia's attacking ISIS. That is US policy. That is the policy of Obama and Hillary Clinton. But that's not what your beloved Mother Russia is doing. Your beloved Mother Russia is attacking innocent Syrian civilians. That's what caused this civil war. The central government backed by your beloved Mother Russia began attacking and murdering its own citizens. That's what caused the Syrian Civil War and your beloved Mother Russia has exacerbated the crisis in Syria. Putin really hasn't been fighting terrorists i.e. ISIS as much as he has been supporting Assad's forces in a war against the Syrian people.

    Hillary wants to create a Syrian safe zone inside Syria to protect Syrian civilians and to keep them from fleeing to other states e.g. Europe. That means no aircraft and no militarization zones within Syria. That would mean your beloved Mother Russia would need to stop bombing civilians. The US government and Hillary both believe there can be no military solution in Syria. They believe that only a political solution can bring peace to Syria. Assad's regime and your beloved Mother Russia believe that there is a military solution to Syria's problems. That belief created the current Syrian civil war.

    In essence, Trump wants to repeat the mistakes which led to WWII. I guess he wasn't a very good history student either.
     
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    About contributions to Nato, Trump had a point....about 10 years ago. In Kosovo most of the EU dithered rather than act. Few were interested in getting involved in the quagmire of Iraq.

    However, many quiet efforts have taken place over the last 10 years to get Nato partners to actually put skin in the game, as they too benefit from a stable Iraq and Afghanistan. Even small countries like Belgium and the Netherlands have contributed warplanes to Afghanistan and fighting IS. The French have more or less single-handedly halted a major islamist insurgency in Mali and plenty of countries are contributing to the fight against IS. Admittedly, they dithered and failed to take the lead on Lybia once the campaign was over, but on the whole, military expenditures among Nato allies have actually increased significantly since around 2007. And yes, Obama and his team did have a hand in getting this to happen.

    Insisting partners honor commitments is important, but you do it behind closed doors. Blurting it out in front of everyone and threatening to cut support will do one thing, it will dissolve the partnership. During the height of the build-up to the Iraq war, most EU members actually agreed with the idea of building a European army to lessen dependence on Nato. It eventually got shot down as confidence in American leadership was slowly restored. But there are still plenty of fans of the idea. Noone there is going to pay what amounts to a ransom, it is far more likely the European army plan will be revived, possibly including current Eastern European Nato members. And one of the most succesful military alliances in history will be over and done.

    Why is it succesful? Because it has never had to fight a serious war. No Nato members have entered into conflict with each other and the alliance through sheer force of its capabilities and numbers has acted as a very serious deterrent.
     
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    This is really ridiculous.

    This time last year, the Republicans were yelling at Obama for "leading from behind" for not doing these things. Every AM talk radio shouter was screaming for war, and all the right wing politicians were too.

    The Russians don't care about ISIS, and have done next to nothing about it. They're interest is in propping up the Assad regieme in Syria and using it in a proxy war against the US and its allies, as they always have.

    Last week, Trump told George Stephaopoulis that he would not support Russia if it invaded Ukraine. George had to explain to Donald that they did it two years ago.
     
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    In other words, Trump's personality...even mental state....is a LOSER for Trump.

    New polling shows numbers in the low 30s of people who think he has the temperament to be President....while Clinton is in the 60s.

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    Weirdly, "JakeJ" LEAPED in to defend Russia and/or Putin when this issue came to the fore-front a week or so ago.

    You've heard the rumors of Russian bloggers who are going on American blogs to defend Putin, defend Russian claims to Ukraine......and maybe promote Trump, who would HELP Putin take over the Ukraine????


    Jus' saying. :)
     

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