LA Times poll: Clinton up by only +1

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  1. Ddyad

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    Yes I know its from January (if you can find a more recent one feel free to post it), but a 94% unfavorablity rating with blacks is not doing far better with minorities.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...has-94-percent-unfavorable-rating-with-blacks
     
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    You mean those black voters that are projected to vote in much, much lower numbers than 2012? You guys are trying your hardest to bring out the single issue voters, but this will be a low turnout election all the way around.
     
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    You should really read their chart a little closer.
    LA_Times_Poll.jpg
    Here's the fine print in case you can't read it.
     
  5. Ddyad

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    The negatives are the result of the 24/7 RP/DP/MSM attacks on Trump. The impact of those attacks seems to be diminishing.

    If attack ads and negative press could keep Trump down he would never rise in polls that would all rather his numbers stayed down.

    These poll numbers: http://www.latimes.com/politics/

    and the Zogby data released yesterday should not be showing up.
     
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    One of the Adults on his staff finally got him to understand that he needs to pander a little yo the Afro-American market. But Blacks are not buying his BS since he is telling them what they already know- life can be tough on big urban areas. He mentioned violence in the urban areas but no solutions.

    What will he propose when he gets around to it - giving more guns to Black people in urban areas do that the mire good guys they gave with a gun the less viololence there will be.
     
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    That is the most honest margin of error statement I have seen.

    All polls have margin of errors.
     
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    Is it more accurate than an average of major polls? Why do you follow it?
     
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    Oh noes! The polls are surely wrong now!!


    :roflol:
     
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    You underestimate the DNC and Hillary is running a brilliant campaign. She's actually doing far better than I thought she would.

    The DNC is extremely good at ground game. I've been working at one of the offices in my swing state and they're amazing at getting people registered to vote.

    When Obama ran last time...just the one office I volunteered at flipped thousands of voters and got those people to the polls..mostly minorities. We had buses...people driving...people helping with registrations...it was amazing. And Hillary is doing all that stuff early.

    In addition, Latino groups are mobilizing their voters to get to the polls because trump is a major racist...particularly towards Hispanics...and they need to ensure that they vote against him. You'll see huge numbers of Hispanic voters in swing states.

    It also helps that the RNC has failed at voter suppression. They'll be lots of early voting this year.

    trump the racist, on the other hand, has very little ground game...he too much of a moron to even comprehend the importance of it. Right now, he's relying on the RNC to do it for him...and half the offices aren't even taking calls...you get a call failure message when you call.

    If by Labor Day, trump the racist's poll numbers don't pick up...the RNC will cut back on the very little support with ground game they're now giving him....then he'll REALLY be screwed.

    Theoretical voters don't matter. You need a well organized machine to get voters out. And the DNC are pros at that...underestimating that is simply stupid.

    The RNC isn't that good at it...and trump the racist is dismal at it. He has no clue what he's doing. And since most of his voting base are uneducated and not very sharp, they're not going to figure this stuff out for him.

    Election night is seriously gearing up to be EPIC!
     
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    So now its all the medias fault huh? you are basically calling minorities stupid as well, yeah that will win them over to the GOP side :roflol:

    Why is it you guys always talk about personal responsibility and then blame someone else like the media? In today's age we have news sources ALL over on radio, internet radio, cable, and the internet. Stop blaming others for Trump's stupidity.
     
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    This reminds me so much of 2012. Conservatives desperate to find any positive news about Romney possibly winning. While every other indicator said otherwise. Once again, they can't see that every state poll in states that will decide this election are terrible for Trump. He's getting destroyed. Has a +6 RCP average, -450 in the betting markets, 88% by nate silver, 80% by predictwise. But they found an LA Times poll that has him losing by 1. Lmao. It's amazing they can't learn and just understand what's happening right in front of their faces.
     
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    If the LA Times has her up by 1 that means Trump is up by 10. They can only skew the polls so much yanno.
     
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    Allowing law abiding Americans to arm themselves is always a good thing to do. Would be especially good for black Americans living in crime zones.

    Giving big choice vouchers to the parents and guardians of children trapped in failed school systems will appeal to many who would not normally vote for a Republican. Pointing out that black Americans are the victims of the systemic racism of the entrenched corrupt ruling political class will generate support. The truth does that.
     
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    Polls at this point don't mean anything.
     
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    I follow it because it is taken every day. The RCP averages results that are IMO no longer relevant when positions are shifting so fast. I do find all polling data interesting. I do not count on them to predict election outcomes.
     
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    LOL! I double dog dare you to find an example of me talking about "personal responsibility". Stop making stuff up.

    Beyond that, people are stupid. Duh! ;-) Review a little human history for conclusive proof. Look in the mirror - works for me. :)
     
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    Ah so personal attacks are all you have left, got it. Hope you have fun saying President Hillary Clinton when Trump loses big in the electoral vote.
     
  19. Ddyad

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    Read again - that was not a personal attack - at all. I am actually rather fond of you Arxael. You clearly have a good heart.

    None of us are very smart - alas. Certainly not smart enough.
     
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    You sound optimistic. It actually makes sense that someone working for the DNC lives in a world of delusion.
     
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    Just paying attention to the polls you like is a recipe for self-deception.

    Here is the current overview of polls from realclearpolitics.com, with the LA Times poll included. As you can see, things look grim for Trump.

    RCP Average 8/1 - 8/16 -- -- 47.2 41.2 Clinton +6.0
    Economist/YouGov 8/14 - 8/16 911 RV 4.2 47 41 Clinton +6
    LA Times/USC 8/10 - 8/16 2551 LV -- 44 43 Clinton +1
    NBC News/SM 8/8 - 8/14 15179 RV 1.2 50 41 Clinton +9
    Reuters/Ipsos 8/6 - 8/10 974 LV 3.5 42 36 Clinton +6
    Bloomberg 8/5 - 8/8 749 LV 3.6 50 44 Clinton +6
    ABC News/Wash Post 8/1 - 8/4 815 RV 4.0 50 42 Clinton +8
     

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