Firefighters Ordered To Remove The American Flag From Their Fire Apparatus

In Poughkeepsie New York, fire fighters have been ordered to remove the American flag off of the back of their apparatus which currently display it much to the anger of the fire fighters and general public.

http://www.toddstarnes.com/column/ny...move-old-glory

http://www.twcnews.com/nys/hudson-va...-Hudson_Valley

While this obviously is a show of patriotic display, there are strict guidelines contained within the US Flag code for the proper display of the flag and displaying the flag as they have (and many other departments have as well) is considered in violation of the code. I'm including a link which show's the proper way to display the American Flag.


http://www.legion.org/flag/code

 

Yet another example of Cultural Subversion.

 

Why now? They have been doing it for as long as I can remember. They also hoist the flag at construction sites.

 

I agree; I have no problem with it as long as they display the flag in accordance with the rules of the US Flag Code.

 

Ah, patriotism! When I was a child my neighbor raised the flag on the pole every morning, and took it down every night. Later on my brother in law did the same thing. Times have changed... but so did this country.

 

The US Flag Code? The Supreme Court ruled that the American Flag can be burned but that isn't covered by "The Code"?

 

those that raise it, are using it as a tool and indirectly expressing a cultural/ political statement by doing so. Gamewell would prefer that it be done properly consistent with that intent. Those that burn it are using the same tool but making an entirely different cultural or political statement. The Supreme court obliges government to provide both groups a right to make their statements.

 

This is bordering on ridiculous...

 

Todd Starnes is that goofball Fox News commentator who is responsible for the non-existent "War on Christmas" conspiracy.

He has an exceptionally thin skin, though, and I've been banned across his entire social media presence for pointing out the flaws in nearly all his "persecuted Christian" stories, which are 99% of what he writes about. And which 99% are just plain wrong.

 

It's a thin line between overt patriotism and nascent nationalism. Enlightened and rational individuals can be comfortable in their heredity without feeling the need to flaunt it.

 

My only strong views are supportive of the SCOTUS decision. Don't like the connotations in that 'flaunt' verb in this context. It suggests a superficial, rather vain motive when people raise their national symbol or salute it that I think reduces them to caricature status. Honoring our flag comes nowhere near that thin line to which you refer. Its normally just a simple albeit habitual act of respect for a long history that includes some great ideas, aspirations and generous acts.

yes it can used and exploited as any unifying symbol can, often to ill purpose, or cynical end when politicians manipulate patriotism, but 90% of the time, its just plain good decent folk, taking a moment to remember something greater more profound than a ball game, a school assembly or the clown car in the parade.

I normally take the time to stop, as flag is raised or goes by, and recall my good fortune to have lived here in this country, after Jefferson, Madison, Monroe and Hamilton, rather than before. My hand goes exactly where I expect it to go and I know exactly why I want it there.

This is not to suggest that those who do not visually honor the flag, cannot honor the same values and attributes in their own time and way.

 

Sure it is; look under the rules of disposal of the American flag.

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How so? Can you elaborate?

 

The removal of the American flag for any reason from any site appears to me to be unnecessary, unpatriotic,
and damn sad...

 

So if someone stuck an American flag across the fire truck’s windscreen, the firefighters should just leave it there are drive blind?

The removal had nothing to do with it being an American flag (some articles even referred to other “patriotic decals” which remained). It could have been a state flag, a firefighters union flag or the Jolly Rodger, the issue would have been exactly the same; several square feet of material hanging off the back of a working vehicle.

 

You should check how Sweden is doing on that part. Some politicians have gone so far to suggest adding a half moon and a star on the flag.
Others have suggested to change the anthem to fit immigrants.

 

The links are both dead.

 

Yes, i realize that Btthegreat but was only pointing out the irony of the situation where one arm of government is saying one thing and the Supreme Court another. I also recognize the difference.

I think we all know that the Firefighters were using the flag as a symbol of respect but now that way of respect is being disallowed according to a "Flag Code" book designed by another bureaucrat.. The wise thing for this latest bureaucrat to do was to say nothing rather than raise another stink. Sometimes silence is the best recourse, given that that he had to know it was being used in a patriotic fashion. No doubt these Firefighters will be shaking their heads over this one, with the result being less faith in the overall 'system'.
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It's happening around the democracies. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...laiming-offensive-Muslims-links-Crusades.html

 

Although I have much respect for patriotism and nationalism the USSA destroyed my beloved Deutschland. The destruction of the United States will benefit all of humanity including white Americans.

 

Oh the poor darlings weren't consulted first about the mounting of the flags. This is a clear trespass...an outright mockery of the boards divine authority.... putting up a flag without asking. And to think that drivers, most of whom speed, change lanes without signaling, follow too closely, text and drive, and drive drunk, might be distracted from their law breaking by a flapping American flag on the back of a Fire Truck.....well, that's just asking too damned much. Besides, Americans don't need to be reminded every time we turn around that we're Americans. We prefer fantasies, drunkenness, adultery, perversion, sloth, and gluttony. Patriotism, like love and religion, should be perfunctory, relegated to proper ceremony. There'll be no grace in this here nation. SALUTE!

 

Grow up...the removal of the flag is just another bureaucrat justifying his existence...your example of a flag across the windscreen is pathetic and childish....

 

In the link that you've posted, there was only one picture, so I decided to contribute and to show another proper way to properly display, or honor American flag.

 

No (*)(*)(*)(*)ing way

 

I didn't realize that you needed to see a picture of a flag on display in the first place; most of us can visualize by reading but I guess you need a little more "stimulation" in order to visualize the flag. So be it.

 

No, no sigar. It's just I never miss the chance to remind people how much Obama loves America.

Is all there's to it.