Muslim-Friendly Workplaces On The Rise Out Of Fear Of Lawsuits

I am all for this. This is going to backfire big time as no one will hire any Nazi......I mean Muslims.

 

I guess this means we will be seeing more "workplace violence".....

 

I noticed our first associate wearing a turban a few weeks back. We've been hiring Indians heavily in our IT dept for a couple of years now. And yes, at lunch they all sit with themselves. So much for assimilation.

Every other table is a mix of male, female, black, white, Hispanic. But there are two tables with at least 8 Indian males. Have NEVER seen anyone else sitting with them ever. There are also a few black female tables that don't see much diversity either.

We've taken great pains to diversify the past couple years. Can't say I notice any difference what so ever in performance. But we sure are a lot more colorful and we speak to each other less in social settings😃👍👍👍👍👏👏


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http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=471724&page=3&p=1066550068#post1066550068

"black blood" link above... notice how he says "now that you admit you have black blood"... I NEVER said that phrase, HE made that phrase up on his own...

there is a VAST difference between someone attempting to discredit you based upon your educational level because they have an opinion different than yours and they have a background in lets say a particular field and are far more well versed in a subject, than for someone to merely judge the merits of your words based on your skin color... if he doesn't like the information or statement I put out, challenge them, attack the words, demonstrate they are incorrect or another theory holds more weight to it its validity, but to dismiss my words or thoughts merely because of my skin color, not a chance in hell I would be as insulted if someone attacked my knowledge over my skin color... however since you asked, numerous folks on this website have attempted to discredit or dismiss me on legal and economic matters, I happen to hold degrees in both areas, and constantly I end up presenting enough information to not just dispel their argument but support mine, as a result of my educational level... in some instances someone with education exceeding mine on another subject has run circles around me because they have superior knowledge on the subject, but it didn't offend me because they had more education or experience in that... but it will ALWAYS offend me and be malicious when my skin color is the litmus test for the worth of my words... once again, I see you're attempting to defend and deflect for him, don't defend a racist, call them what they are, they earned it...

P.S. in his messages he's basically attempting to deflect and say "well if I called you something positive would you be upset, so how can you get upset when I called you this other thing, unless you somehow feel its negative"... but then he goes and says something insanely racist like I have "black blood" and I'm supposed to somehow think thats anything but racist... in previous messages he said its suspicious I claim I'm not black, because blacks lie about others and he said I was lying about him... thats insanely racist... and then to take it all the way back to the start, he assumed I was black, and said thats why I must not like cops, and that I must get stopped by cops a lot because I'm black and thats why I dislike him... everything about his statements is with malice and racism... he is the epitome of racism at every turn... and at the very end of his message, you can just smell the smug racist attitude when he says "I sure want to know what presumptions were made by a simple guess. A guess that turns out is quite accurate."... its just so blatant... its as if he ignores ALL the presumptions he made because he thought I was black... about hating cops because I was black, about being stopped by cops because I was black, etc etc etc... and now I have "black blood"...

 

have you ever gone to sit down with them? no? so who's not assimilating now, because they don't come to you? but you've never gone to them either?

try something different tomorrow, go sit down with them and talk with them... what have you got to lose, a single lunch away from your high school table?

you're not afraid of everyone in the lunch room seeing you with them are you? just grab your lunch tray and walk over there and say, gentlemen, may I join you?

 

Give me a break. Why aren't they sitting with all the other IT guys? We have 100s. I figured they would all intermingle. They're not NEW. We didn't hire them all at once. They've been here for years. We have onboarding where everyone gets to know everyone. Sure, I could just plop down next to them one day, but I like sitting who I like sitting with and talking about movies and sad to say, I don't want to feel like I have to censor myself, in case of offending people, especially if politics comes up=) The guys and gals I sit with who have varying views and positions are all comfortable with disagreeing and not calling HR. And yes, its highschool, hehe. That is so dead on.

Its simply not worth the hassle, due to PC bullcrap.

 

Meanwhile...christian bakers are (*)(*)(*)(*)ed!

 

You're allowed to have your breaks. And your boss that you may not pray during your break,.. than it's fascism that kicks in.

 

so the answer is, no, you have not sat down next to them either or made any efforts, but you complain they have not made any efforts... pot, meet kettle...

the fact you think you need to sensor yourself, likely tells me you can't carry on a general conversation with folks if you think they will be offended by you merely talking... I mean why can't you sit and talk to them about movies, since you said thats what you like doing, or do you think they don't enjoy movies... and since you "like sitting who you like sitting with" perhaps they feel the same way, but they don't hold it against you, like you're holding it against them... do as I say, not as I do... thats your motto...

so why not sit down, introduce yourself, and talk about movies... if you do, and they don't care for movies, maybe tomorrow you go back to your other high school table...

 

Excellent points!

 

So it either IS OK to sit with who you want to sit with or not? The thing is, I'm not sitting with all white guys. They're ONLY sitting with Indian Males. I sit with a couple of white guys, but also a guy from Peru and a gal from Trinidad regularly. Our design contractors come from everywhere, so nothing inclusive. Our ITS team is mostly white guys and Indian, with the occasional female. I'm NOT ITS, if you didn't get that by now. I'm sorry you can't see the GLARINGLY obvious difference here. It is not OUR obligation to force them to assimilate. They're associates just like everyone else, but they ONLY sit with themselves. They're choosing to stay closed off from everyone else. Look everywhere else and the tables are diverse. I would take a picture if I could and you would see exactly who is standing out, hehe.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not condemning them. It's just a simple observation.

 

Ever leave your desk for a smoke, or not come in because of a sick child? How about take a call from your kids school in the middle of the day?

 

Employees should get minimum 30 min lunch and two breaks during the day with which they can do as they please. Any other accommodations than those (other than ADA which is a whole nother can of worms) as far as breaks go are poisonous PC at work.

If having more breaks and break-type accommodations is that important to them, they can work other places that offer what they want. We have had a noxious trend in the US of conforming workplaces way past basic safety and clean, healthy work conditions towards reengineering workplaces in PC ways. That's one BIG reason our small business private sector is hurting so badly.

A vote for Democrats is more of the same PC workplace garbage that costs JOBS and destroys wealth.

A vote for Democrats is a vote for TV lawyers and other plaintiff's lawyers, scumbags who make their living manufacturing lawsuits out of thin air. They cost JOBS and destroy wealth.

A vote for Democrats is a vote for more and more illegal aliens and anchor baby vote padding that costs JOBS and $$ in benefits taxpayers pay for, destroying wealth.

 

When my kids were in school, of course I would miss work occasionally b/c of a sick kid at home and you know why this was accepted by my boss? Because during the interview he/she knew I was a mother w/under-age kids and he/she knew this was part of the drill when a new employee was a parent. And ditto if the school called me........not to mention the fact that the above was only once in a great while! Not daily, like daily prayers. And any smoking was done only during the breaks/lunch hr.

Having to leave your job to run off to a room to say your prayers several times thru the working day, refusing to handle a certain item, like pork, when it was stipulated in your contract as part of your job description is an entirely different story....and one that management shouldn't have to kowtow to and they're only asking for trouble if they do....which some have already found out.

 

you claim you're not condemning them and its a simple observation but you're complaining THEY are not making the effort to do what YOU want them to do... if you're so concerned with their eating habits, like I said, why don't YOU take your lunch tray over there one day, see if they mind you joining them for lunch, and then talk about the movies you love since you state thats what you enjoy talking to the others about... perhaps you will find out they enjoy movies just as much as you... but you will never know, because YOU won't make the effort to find out, the same thing you're complaining they won't do... but it seems to bother you immensely they won't come to you, so you go to them... perhaps they feel the hostility you put off and looks you give them as they sit among each other, perhaps they feel YOU don't want them to come sit with you... I mean would you want to sit with you, with the attitude you have in judging them?

why are you so afraid to give up just ONE lunch period this week, and go say hello and sit and chat with them about movies... unless you're afraid? but I suspect you'll say you're not afraid and them spin into a deflection and blame them for you not making any effort either... its easier to blame them than to take the first step and reach out to your fellow employees and say, hey mind if I join you guys for lunch today... I'm pretty sure they don't have cooties, try having lunch with someone different today... you might enjoy it...

 

Muslims want special treatment at work now?

When will we as a country stand up to these blood thirsty barbarians and say NO?

 

I suppose you could be right but I still don't fully see it. IMO you have a sensitivity around this issue like the sensitivity I have to cigarette smoke. I have had people react very hatefully to me because of it; they don't give a dnmm how much suffering I've had because of it, either. (I had two operations on my sinuses because of second hand smoke before they passed all those laws...and after the second one, my hospital's roommates came into our room chain smoking....). People reacted to my sensitivity to cigarette smoke much as Robert has reacted to your anger. Discounting and annoyed. But even though he didn't get your point he did apologize, which is more than I ever got.

 

I have never heard of a boss telling people they may not pray during break. What company stops workers?

 

The meat processing plant mentioned in the OP, they told the Muslim workers to go home if they wanted to pray.

 

Wait a minute....your hospital roommates pals came into your hospital room smoking?! In a hospital? Did I read that right?

 

Is it too much to ask what they do during their break?

Indeed. Our parents thought against fascism, and the idea to just bully who ever that aint white and christian in the US is staggering.

 

That was back in the 60's. One of many reasons the smoking laws were changed. You couldn't go into a bar or many restaurants if you had problems with smoke back then.

A problem I've had since then is in skating rinks, etc where they use that fake smoke; IMO it's just as hard on the lungs.

 

Well, that's surprising that the bosses of a company told the Muslims that and I'm inclined to agree w/them. Their company is not a church or mosque.

If the Muslims were able to just say their prayers quietly, not speaking outloud, and still concentrate on their job, no one would notice, no one would care, but they have to go thru a ritual w/their prayer mat, etc, dictated to them by their prophet and Koran and Allah......baloney!

 

Ok....the 60's. That makes sense. Sorry you've had such a hard time w/lungs and that reminds me. I read health articles and read up on the spice, ginger, and it's health benefits. I'm sure it said ginger is really good for heart and lungs.....the organic, of course. Check it out.

 

He is complaining that he himself declared he is both black and white. I did not ask which parent is which.

He is tossing a tantrum over a non issue.

I found him unwilling to listen to two police officers. I recall him complaining he got stopped and frisked by cops. I wondered why was that?

What is different about him that cops wanted to stop and frisk him?

Trying to ferret out why the cops picked on him, yet cops do not pick on me, nor do I read of other posters getting picked on, I guessed he was black.

Blacks constantly complain of stop and frisk.

It was not trying to be me angry over race, but it seems he is the angry person over race.

I have had excellent relationships with virtually 100 percent of blacks I encounter. I have long treated each person as an equal.

Maybe in his his mind it was a put down. But he admits he is of both black and whites. That is the use of the term black blood.

Obama does not claim to be white despite having a white mom. He has black blood and admits it.

It has nothing to do with blood color as it has to do with parentage.

You can't apologize to BM because he is extremely belligerent.

I noticed his beligerance in his exchanges with the two police officers that post here.

Notice it is not I attacking him. Matter of fact he has not tried to resolve this, but keeps cussing at me.