Trump is most certainly not 'Pro-LGBT'.

It seems to be a popular position that Trump is pro-LGBT; I have found scant evidence for that position, and ample counterevidence.

First, there is his VP; Mike Pence is, as expected for a far right conservative, heavily anti-LGBT; he promoted the Indiana 'Religious Freedom' law, which allowed disgrimination against people who you said your religion didn't allow you to serve. The fact that similar principles would allow for a 'Whites only' sign on your restaurant seems to have flown by them (and if anyone asks, 'what would be the problem with that', I point at the fifty years of social progress it would obliterate).

Second, in Russia they are so ridiculously anti-LGBT that I can't even fathom how a man on good terms with them can claim to be pro-gay. They literally beat people in the streets, and have passed a law preventing "propoganda of nontraditional sexual relations to minors", which they're using as a free pass to, for instance, arrest people that hold hands in public. Putin is, in all severity, a monster, and he has praised Trump numerous times.

Third, there's the 2016 Republican Platform; it said that they (and Trump, who is their nominee) would do the following.
- Overturn the Supreme Court's 2015 decision to make gay marriage legal in all fifty states.
- "We oppose government discrimination against businesses or entities which decline to sell items or services to individuals for activities that go against their religious views about such activities” (pg. 32). That includes adoption agencies, and doctors; they want to make the 'religious liberty' law national! If you don't see a problem with doctors being able to discriminate on their clientele, I should hope you could see some repercussions from it. "Help me, my fiancé is bleeding to death!", "I'm sorry, your fiancé? We don't serve your kind."
- "We support the right of parents to consent to medical treatment for their minor children," was placed within the LGBT section, and heavily implies that they want to keep "Pray the gay away" treatments legal. I'm not going to go into heavy detail if you don't know precisely how horrific some of these 'treatments' are, but suffice to say that a man who supports them is not a man I'm ever going to call 'pro-LGBT'.
- Officially discouraging gay couples from adopting children (as if being in a group home is somehow worse than having two loving parents), with “Every child deserves a married mom and dad,”. Also, does that imply that they're opposed to single parents being allowed to raise their kids? Is that a political issue?

As far as evidence 'for' Donald Trump being pro-LGBT, I've heard the classic "Oh, I have gay friends" defense (and he apparently wants to keep his friends from adopting children, wants to make it legal to for doctors to discriminate against them, and wants to keep them from being married), and the 'I'll protect them from the evil foreigners!' defense, as if his immigration policies wouldn't prevent LGBT people desperately seeking a better life from coming into our country.

 

Trump's choosing Pence as his VP is the only fact in the above. The rest is pure conjecture and BS, especially the Russia hokum.

Here are some more facts from a poorly written garbage source I wouldn't normally cite but it does include a decent factual summary of Trump's support for gay rights. Oh, OP, it took all of 10 seconds of googling to find I, so I think you basically made up the first sentence in your OP. Like Trump or hate him, he has a well-documented history of support for gay rights.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/...obviously_the_most_pro_gay_gop_candidate.html

 

The main thing about this election is that Hillary should be in prison.

Steve

 

Who gives a (*)(*)(*)(*), first off?

 

Everyone who is interested in winning elections should. Many gay men are also white men constantly targeted and maligned by the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-MSM Complex for their white maleness. It is a natural crossover vote for the GOP candidate to court.

 

Again, who cares.

 

Meanwhile SJWs champion Islam, which is both religiously and culturally counter to every liberal policy, including the LGBT community.

In Orlando we learned Islam > Homosexuality as far as the progressive left is concerned.

 

Apparently -you- cared enough to make a post instead of simply -not making- posts on topics you don't care about. Irony.

 

Even then being pro religious freedom is now considered to be anti-LGBT.

 

And that was the limit to my caring about LGBT issues.

 

If you think that you have the religious right to discriminate others, certainly. Quite frankly? If religious freedom=the allowance of disgrimination, I want no part of that religious freedom, but it doesn't. Religious freedom means that someone can belong to any religion that they want, but that is, alongside freedom of speech, provided with a 'Do no great harm'. You can't justify discrimination against the LGBT based on religious freedom for the same reason you can't shout "Fire!" in the middle of a crowded movie theatre based on freedom of speech. Trump is very much in favor of 'loosening' libel laws, by the way.

Say, would you be similarly pro-religious freedom if people used it to justify not serving, for instance, black people? Would you be so enthusiastic about it if it was used to justify "Whites only" restaurants. I assure you, Mike Pence will not go down in the bowels of history as a good man. As of 2014, 61% of Republicans under 30 years of age supported gay marriage, and that reflects a generally pro-LGBT attitude by the youth of today. Pro-LGBT ideas have steadily become more and more prominent, and I have little doubt that in fifty years people among the ranks of Mike Pence will be viewed as we view the segregationists today!

Well, so long as you don't try to prevent anti-disgrimination legislation for LGBT people, I have absolutely no problem with you not caring about my sexuality. That's sort of what we're working towards.

 

Stop demanding special rights, and we will no longer care.

 

Yet you constantly bring it up? "Don't care about my sexuality"...

"Gay pride parade... slapping this dude with a giant dildo is none of your business except that I'm in the middle of the street".

Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). If we stop caring about your sexuality, you become irrelevant. That's the exact opposite of what you want.

 

Russia? Really? Again, Russia? You sound like people who claim Obama does things to benefit his Pakistani friends. I'm sorry. His "Pock-ee-ston-ee" friends.

Say that reminds me. He's conscious enough to pronounce Pakistan a certain way, but not Navy corpsman. If you don't know how to pronounce corpsman, you have zero sense of American military history. You've never in your life studied it. There's no way. And why would he, given his educational background?

 

Keep in mind, there's what Trump really believes....

and there's the "red meat" he throws to mouth-breathing rednecks to get their votes.


Not always the same thing. Notice how he's already backing off the "mass deportation" thing?

 

It's certainly better than knuckle-dragging democrats that think Hillary is above the law. LOL

Steve

 

News article- Trump strips naked, covers self in Jello, runs down street screaming that Taylor Swift will be his 4th wife.

Rightwing blogger response - "But, but, but....HILLARY!!!!"

 

Just another reason to vote Trump '16!

 

Ok. So is this an important issue for you? If so, will you be voting in November for the candidate who in 2004 said "I believe that marriage is not just a bond but a sacred bond between a man and a woman", is that where you're at? Just checking...

 

'Special rights'? Oh, because black people are demanding that they have 'special rights' when they had sit ins? I'm not saying that LGBT people have been as oppressed as African Americans throughout American history, but they have been oppressed; the fact that people are actually promoting laws to make it legal to discriminate against the LGBT, and are actively fighting against protections for them, is testament enough for that. I have been called a particular euphamism for a bundle of sticks more times than I care to talk about, mocked, and if I was transgender I would be forced to hold my urine while I went out to eat, like a dog being told not to (*)(*)(*)(*) in the house. It's very easy for majorities to not comprehend the fact that others have it harder than them, but don't you dare tell me that I'm asking for 'special rights' until you've walked a mile in my shoes.

We aren't a homogenous mass, you know. I don't attend pride parades (though not all of that are that audacious), and I will happily have my sexuality fade out of the spotlight five decades from now; after the LGBT community finally has equal rights, and people stop trying to reverse existing progress.

 

Meanwhile 15,000 more deleted Hillary emails are recovered. Yet the main street media says nothing. Crickets chirping.

 

Ha, but but but.

 

Seriously who gives a fk. I thought these homos just wanted to be like everyone else. Why should he make special mention of them? Oh because they want to be special..can't have it both ways...gays are nasty as fk.

 

You know how people know I'm straight? They don't. They assume because I never bring it up.

You know how to tell if a gay person is gay? Wait... cause they'll tell you before long.

Progress... lol we are progressing to a nasty crime ridden (*)(*)(*)(*) hole third world country in a hurry... I've had about all the progress I can handle.

 

A junk OP. Trump is not Pence and he's not the RNC. He stated outright at the RNC his support of LGBTQ rights and you could not mention anything in his life history to contradict this.