Prefect Speech by Hillary Clinton today: Focus on Trump Supporters and Advisers

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  1. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Well, if he starts biting off bats heads on TV or perhaps making porn films from his penthouse suite, I guess we will know.
     
  2. Austroanarchy

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    It seems you can not logically comprehend what I am saying. If America was as well off as Obama suggests, it fails to explain why Trump or Sanders were so popular.
     
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    Please do explain what my statement has anything to do with being a birther? If you can comprehend simple English, you would see that I am suggesting the approval ratings are meaningless because the amount of social unrest. This isn't even a plea to vote trump it's a CAVEAT for the people who don't take him seriously.
     
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    So if Trump loses...and since Sanders lost to Clinton.....


    your analysis of how things are under President Obama ...will be proven wrong, won't it???

    :)

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    We've already seen the "lesbian bathtub porn" from Melania....so that's a start.

    :)
     
  5. Austroanarchy

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    No because populism suggests that the American public are wanting drastic change.
    The fact that Clinton had to cheat against Sanders shows this
     
  6. Natty Bumpo

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    That would consolidate his support - and turn on Phyllis Schlafly, of course.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Lmao, people might want change, but they don't want Trump to be the one making the changes. He's the most disliked Presidential candidate in recorded history.
     
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    You didn't answer my question (naturally)....given YOUR analysis that "Things aren't going well under Obama, that's why Trump and Sanders were so popular"...

    if Trump LOSES, as Sanders lost the Dem Nomination.....by YOUR analysis, it'll mean that you were wrong and things ARE going well under President Obama.


    Or didn't you think through your talking point that far? :)
     
  9. Moriah

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    I understood what you were saying. What I am trying to point out is that I don't care what Obama's ideas/policies/mandates were. He cannot run for President again. His time in office will be history in 5 more months.
     
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    So are you admitting Obama policies were inefficient in their goals?
     
  11. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    I'm admitting the Republican lead Congress has the lowest rating in recorded history and people want Congress to change. Obama has a great approval rating. Attacking him is a losing cause.
     
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    This does not follow because it assumes if A then B and if B then A. I am afraid you have fallen into fallacious argumentation because you affirmed the consequence.

    I suggest, if The present and preceding administrations are not successful in their aspirations and have seemingly been harmful towards society, even retrogressive in some aspects, then you will see a rise in populism, such as candidates like trump and sanders. Your assumption that if trump does not win it suggests the previous administrations have been successful, it would seem that this is not true because other factors that have not been established could be at play.

    I am sorry to inform you that your fallacious argument is not a positive analysis but forces you to fall into normative one, and therefore makes it highly inadmissible in any meaningful way of knowledge.

    Did you forget that fallacious arguments are false by their nature or did you not look that far ahead In your thinking?
     
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    And hopefully, for Syrias sake, Trump or Clinton aren't worse.
     
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    Hillary's speeches are predictable and boring. There isn't a single bright spot in them. Either she is fear-mongering, race baiting, or lying. She is incapable of connecting with her audience.

    You all would say the same thing about an empty chair if it was running democrat. It saves you from having to be engaged with reality.
     
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    Prefect.
     
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    I do believe she might be over her infatuation with the neocon svengalis but, on the other hand, a woman in a man's world often has to prove she can be tougher than the boys. I.e., she might contract Margaret Thatcher Syndrome.
     
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    One of the worst speeches Ive ever heard. I cant take the way she speaks. Plus all the lies.
     
  18. PatriotNews

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    I have serious doubts about the polls. I really believe that they are push polls. People don't want to be called a racist by a pollster as well by saying they disapprove of him. But if you approve of Obama's job as president, I don't know how you can justify it.

    Obama traded 5 of the most dangerous terrorists for a traitor Bergdahl. Obama has been attacking the police as racist, going to the funerals of thug criminals, then when police are slaughtered at the hands of his thugs, he's nowhere to be found. He signed the worst treaty with Iran, without the consent of congress which is unconstitutional, and then he sends $400,000,000.00 in hard currency ransom payment for the release of hostages, lies about it, and then gets caught in a lie. He's the only president who hasn't had a growth rate of 3%. His policies are failing. Obamacare is crumbling. What has he done that's good?

    Hillary can't even defend him and doesn't even try. One of the remarkable things about her divisive race-baiting speech, is that she didn't say one thing about what she would do for African Americans, Hispanics, minorities or civil rights. All she is left with is name-calling. I don't think that demonstrates leadership, that kind of hate-filled rant that accuses Trump and half of American of being white supremacists, white nationalists, Nazi's or KKK. It's silly on it's face. It was a what, 25 or 30 minute rant on Trump and his supporters are like David Duke and the new danger code word "Alt-Right". Most Americans, conservatives, republicans aren't racists. Most liberals, democrats aren't racists.

    Hillary didn't give a speech about policies. She is in hiding trying to run out the clock. She thinks that by sitting on a lead she can win the election with the media cheer-leading for her as surrogates in her absence. She's only had the one rally, and not that many people even showed up. Trump has rallies with 10,000 people showing up. Sometimes 2 or 3 a day. I think if he keeps this up, people will notice that he has the strength, the stamina and the determination to be president. Hillary doesn't have the energy, and she is boring when she does make an appearance. Her rallies are boring. People aren't patriotic at democrat rallies. They don't shout USA, USA, USA! It make the party look bad.

    So Crooked Hillary is going to try to ride out the summer, no campaigning, no press interviews, and no press conferences especially, because there is a steady drip, drip, drip of bad news for her. Her email mess is like a bloody crime scene, and the DNC leaks is like the eye witness to the murder, and her Clinton Foundation pay for play scandal is like DNA evidence that points to the fact that she is undeniably a horrible criminal. What is she going to say to Donald Trump in 3 debates when he calls her a criminal? All she can say is "your a racist". She won't be able to explain away her crimes in the debates by calling Trump a racist in every response.

    When the subject of illegal immigrants, border control and crime come up, Donald Trump has common sense solutions. Hillary wants the status quo. Open borders. She wants to bring in more refugees. She doesn't have a leg to stand on. People aren't going to vote for her when her only solutions to immigration are, "Trump is a racist".

    Same with every other issue. Even the race issue. Trump is proposing better education, better jobs and better pay for African Americans, Latinos, and all Americans. Trump is saying you will have safer streets, safer neighborhoods. What can Hillary offer? Cops are racist isn't a solution. Siding with the teachers union and common core won't improve schools. Importing more little brown slave laborers to take jobs from whites, blacks and Hispanics won't bring us better jobs or pay. TPP and other terrible trade deals won't bring us economic growth. She loses on every issue.

    I think the debate will be so bad for Crooked Hillary that she will not even come close. I think Trump will take the lead in the polls since he is the only one campaigning. She can't rely on her fat corporate donations or her Hollywood 1% friends to give her huge donations and make this race about negative advertising against Trump. After months of seeing that on their TV's, people will be so angry they will vote for Trump out of spite.
     

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